[2018 6 Nations] Round 5 : England v Ireland (17/03/2018)

[Hanley!]

The rules around the breakdown can be a bit nebulous at the best of times, and World Rugby should be looking to introduce some kind of consistency there. But it's a little self-centered to suggest that the breakdown is reffed correctly in the English Premiership, but incorrectly in the Pro14, the European Championship, and the Six Nations.

 

[Every Time Ref]

The Pro14 refs are the pain. The breakdown is a lottery. The AP sides shouldn't have to adapt, the laws should just be properly officiated.

Either way, what needs to happen is consistency applied internationally, then everyone can adapt equally. If supporting your own weight is not to be considered that big a deal, fine, let's decide that and roll out a law change worldwide then noone can complain

My pack would be

1. Mako
2. George
3. Williams
4. Itoje
5. Lawes
6. Underhill
7. Tom Curry
8. Vunipola
16. LCD
17. Genge
18. Sinkler
19. Launchbury
20. Armand

Physicality, speed, impact ..... everything

I might swap Sinckler for Williams for the extra carrying and because I think the better player should have more minutes

 

[RugbyMarvel]

The rules around the breakdown can be a bit nebulous at the best of times, and World Rugby should be looking to introduce some kind of consistency there. But it's a little self-centered to suggest that the breakdown is reffed correctly in the English Premiership, but incorrectly in the Pro14, the European Championship, and the Six Nations.

Barring players entering a ruck off their feet, refs in the AP actively penalise not supporting body weight, going beyond the ball, not releasing the tackled player, not rolling away.

Games are flowing more, there is less confusion, and the rules are actually being followed (barring the off feet entries)

 

[Which Tyler]

I might swap Sinckler for Williams for the extra carrying and because I think the better player should have more minutes

I wouldn't as I'd want more carrying coming off the bench as Billy tires.

Though is say that with my usual proviso that I know next to nothing about tight forward play.

 

[RugbyMarvel]

I wouldn't as I'd want more carrying coming off the bench as Billy tires

Genge, Armand, LCD can offer an injection from the bench. Having Mako, Sinckler, Billy starting would be balanced

 

[Every Time Ref]

I wouldn't as I'd want more carrying coming off the bench as Billy tires.

Though is say that with my usual proviso that I know next to nothing about tight forward play.

Me too!

In a perfect world we wouldn't need to have this discussion as we'd be able to clone Owen Farrell and have him at 10,12 and tighthead TBF

 

[Which Tyler]

So Eddie has said that some players (plural) have played their last match for England.
Assuming this isn't just "things that Eddie says", who would that be?

Hopefully: Hartley, Cole, Haskell, Wigglesworth..

Sod's law: Launchbury, Armand, Ford, Joseph

 

[TommiG88]

So Eddie has said that some players (plural) have played their last match for England.
Assuming this isn't just "things that Eddie says", who would that be?

Hopefully: Hartley, Cole, Haskell, Wigglesworth..

Sods law: Launchbury, Armand, Ford, Joseph

Lancaster's, sorry, eddies players have not played their last game.

Embarrassing

 

[ncurd]

I can handle Haskell in an England shirt again.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Honestly lads. We couldn't deserve it more. We're class!

 

[Which Tyler]

Honestly lads. We couldn't deserve it more. We're class!

Shouldn't you be busy whipping your liver into submission?
You certainly deserve to be.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Honestly lads. We couldn't deserve it more. We're class!

Ah, leave us alone. We're enjoying beating ourselves up. Much more fun than winning!!

 

[RugbyMarvel]

Ah, leave us alone. We're enjoying beating ourselves up. Much more fun than winning!!

I want to have my week long period of moaning and mourning and no one can take that away from me.

 

[Big_Grumper]

Honestly lads. We couldn't deserve it more. We're class!

Enjoy it. The best team won and deserve the plaudits.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

So Eddie has said that some players (plural) have played their last match for England.
Assuming this isn't just "things that Eddie says", who would that be?

Hopefully: Hartley, Cole, Haskell, Wigglesworth..

Sod's law: Launchbury, Armand, Ford, Joseph

Without wishing to reignite the whole debate I'd add Robshaw to that list.

 

[Every Time Ref]

Honestly lads. We couldn't deserve it more. We're class!

I was just thinking how glad I was all the Irish were off getting drunk so we could quietly wallow in our self-deprecating English misery.

**** off and get drunk won't you, ya hard-drinking loveable rogue dumb Mick stereotype

Edit: On Eddie's big statement, first of all I agree it's probably just another bullshit claim, but if it is serious then it won't be Hartley and it won't be who it should be

 

[Groundhog]

The Pro14 refs are the pain. The breakdown is a lottery. The AP sides shouldn't have to adapt, the laws should just be properly officiated.

Angus Gardner is fr Australia tho

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Angus Gardner is fr Australia tho

Asking a convict to enforce the laws is never a good idea

 

[Maverick1987]

Anyone got a video of the Eddie Jones interview where he says some players have played their last game ?

 

[Which Tyler]

Anyone got a video of the Eddie Jones interview where he says some players have played their last game ?

I think it was a radio interview whilst we were all watching Trinh-Duc throw the game away against Wales.
Eddie Butler told us about it.