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[2018 November Tests] England v South Africa (3/10/18)
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<blockquote data-quote="MarkyH" data-source="post: 918720" data-attributes="member: 73780"><p>Tuilagi is a 13, and Te'o is a 12 for sure, doesn't mean we have to start them together. I think Tuilagi will start 13. Slade is also very much a 13 (despite his skillset the idea of him being a 12 has been put to bed now) so the only players we have available at 12 are Farrell or Te'o. The only other potential player we could try 12 is Johnny Williams who is not in the squad. We are actually not missing anyone to play 12. I'd have Cips at 10 maybe instead of Ford but EJ is not a fan, and as I've said before the way Farrell stropped at Cips during the 3rd test in the summer when he set up Mays try was cringe-worthy.</p><p></p><p>Ford has been playing really well for Leicester this season, and has been playing a lot better than Te'o who just hasn't played at all. I'm surprised anyone would be irritated by the Ford/Farrell axis as it's when we've played our best rugby. The only problem its caused is not having a ball carrier in the backs to drawer defenders away. I'm not debating who is better if we were to pick one btw.</p><p></p><p>As for experience, I'd rather them in the firing line now than during a WC. But you could argue at a 10/12/13 of Ford, Farrell and Tuilagi is plenty experience. And as for the relative inexperience of Curry and Underhill I wouldn't be concerned, they've been round the EPS for a while now and have a higher development ceiling between now and the WC than someone like Rhodes, who is clearly a talented player but I'm just not sure if we need to call on him for England.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MarkyH, post: 918720, member: 73780"] Tuilagi is a 13, and Te'o is a 12 for sure, doesn't mean we have to start them together. I think Tuilagi will start 13. Slade is also very much a 13 (despite his skillset the idea of him being a 12 has been put to bed now) so the only players we have available at 12 are Farrell or Te'o. The only other potential player we could try 12 is Johnny Williams who is not in the squad. We are actually not missing anyone to play 12. I'd have Cips at 10 maybe instead of Ford but EJ is not a fan, and as I've said before the way Farrell stropped at Cips during the 3rd test in the summer when he set up Mays try was cringe-worthy. Ford has been playing really well for Leicester this season, and has been playing a lot better than Te'o who just hasn't played at all. I'm surprised anyone would be irritated by the Ford/Farrell axis as it's when we've played our best rugby. The only problem its caused is not having a ball carrier in the backs to drawer defenders away. I'm not debating who is better if we were to pick one btw. As for experience, I'd rather them in the firing line now than during a WC. But you could argue at a 10/12/13 of Ford, Farrell and Tuilagi is plenty experience. And as for the relative inexperience of Curry and Underhill I wouldn't be concerned, they've been round the EPS for a while now and have a higher development ceiling between now and the WC than someone like Rhodes, who is clearly a talented player but I'm just not sure if we need to call on him for England. [/QUOTE]
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