[2018 November Tests] England vs New Zealand 10/11/18

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  1. smartcooky

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    Sounds like the words of a bitter and twisted Aussie crying in his Fosters/Castlemain XXXX (delete as applicable)
     
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    "Never underestimate the power of the Internet to lend unwarranted credibility to the colossally misinformed"
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    While we are crucifying laws not addressed, and in line with your paragraph above, one is the ruck or maul clean out were players are supposed to "not leave their feet". They simply dive in and clean out someone else perhaps flopped illigally over the ball to start with. At times, dangerously so in my opinion, as it generally involves using their shoulder first to "join" the ruck. Never ever gets called. That, and players just joining from the side was overlooked several times in the AB England match up. Well, I counted once, but I bet it happened more ... "a lot more". :)
     
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    Clear, expanding ruck etc and TMO can do what he likes when a try is scored. Shame the decision wasn't as clear as you seem to think. Here's TJ lifting the ball before the NZ leg appears. Just rewind the video.

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    Wooptido he knows rugby rules because he's a ref. Outstanding. You must be so clever, meanwhile my mathematics knowledge proves it was a try.
     
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    I mean sure if the scrum half had lifted the ball in that picture you'd be right....but he hasn't.
     
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    if i could zoom in.. there might be a blade of grass or two on the ball as Lawes' boot touches the grass blades, i dont think it so though, it was a try. I have a differing opinion from what appears to be the consensus here and i'm not being browbeat to change it. :)
     
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    Meh. Salty Brit poster is salty

    Refer the last part of my reply to TommiG8 in post #792 (and I suggest you take the advice I give in my signature).
     
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    sorry...what math exactly have you done?...are you saying using the pause and rewind functions of the youtube video is math? i have about 8 degrees sitting around me currently (from math, to physics, engineering, surveying and even GIS), we could do a bit of a peer review for you.
     
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    I am salty, the tears will sort that out. And i suggest you **** off with your high horseness because nothing about that decision was either concrete or pro-rugby. Unlike you i come from a town where we still play the origin of the sport and there are no rules. Zero (murder was imposd because of the authoritries). You'd hate it.

    edit** also the limit on the imagine on this site makes it look like TJ hasn't lifted it off the ground, get a HD imagine, again clear as day try.
     
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    Straight off the bat you got caught lying in saying 'we know that Garces told Lawes he was onside'. In future, don't lead with a lie and don't try to bend the narrative to suit your argument. Just tell the truth because you might actually have a point.
     
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    My source on that was purely going off what the eggchasers podcast said. Thanks for the advice, though it's not settled and it was a try. You haven't provided me with anythig that says it wasn't a try. D
     
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    I think it’s hard for the rest of of because you keep posting picture that at BEST are ambiguous as to where the bill was off the ground or not and claim that they are clear as day, you show no sign of accepting any other option...the definition of bias
     
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    M8 it's a picture in motion i did the best i could do. Thanks for making me not read your signature.
     
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    Like I said before - I'm with the refs on that one.

    For what its worth (and to me look like Im objective, which I am lol), I agreed with Angus Gardner on his judgement not to penalise Farrell for his game winning hit on Esterhuizen against the Boks the week before.

    On both tough occasions, the refs have ruled within the laws of the game.
     
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    no need to get nasty . pull your head in and show some respect. this is discussing intelligent rugby. if u have to make it personal , you lose credibility
     
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    i dont understand the big deal of whether the balls off the ground or not. lawes was offside and never retreated back onside and nor did any of his team mates put him onside.
     
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    Hmmmm pretty much, very safe opinion m8 I know i'm boring you but it was a try and a very biased thing did just occur. But let's just ignore it.
     
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    >lawes was offside

    No he wasn't. Go back a few pages. If this site had larger mb images i would conclusively prove it.
     
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    nah it wouldnt. he went offside and never got back onside...simple
     
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