[2020 Autumn Nations Cup] Ireland vs Scotland (05/12/20)

[TRF_Olyy]

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[Leinster Fan]

I don't have the energy for another week of this. Praying that either a 35 year old or Billy Burns are fit to save us at home to Scotland is not a good thing.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Do you know that game, every four years or so, where we hit rock bottom by losing to Scotland? It's coming.

At least we can't back it up with a loss to Italy this time.

 

[Groundhog]

Harry Byrne is training with Ireland as Burns is gone. Connors and Lowe are out. Sexy and Henshaw are back. Earls and Herring are fine.

 

[big ginger 8]

Harry Byrne is training with Ireland as Burns is gone. Connors and Lowe are out. Sexy and Henshaw are back. Earls and Herring are fine.

Irish Rugby - The Isolation Years

O'Sullivan should have been used. Some younger lads brought in for experience in camp. And some better planning like how did we end up away with 5 props. 1injured that he couldn't play another pulled up and effectively had 3 props Fair enough, honestly with todays side I agree with you more.

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Irish Rugby - The Isolation Years

O'Sullivan should have been used. Some younger lads brought in for experience in camp. And some better planning like how did we end up away with 5 props. 1injured that he couldn't play another pulled up and effectively had 3 props Fair enough, honestly with todays side I agree with you more.

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Spongebob showing Patrick meme.

 

[Groundhog]

Irish Rugby - The Isolation Years

O'Sullivan should have been used. Some younger lads brought in for experience in camp. And some better planning like how did we end up away with 5 props. 1injured that he couldn't play another pulled up and effectively had 3 props Fair enough, honestly with todays side I agree with you more.

www.therugbyforum.com

Irish Rugby - The Isolation Years

O'Sullivan should have been used. Some younger lads brought in for experience in camp. And some better planning like how did we end up away with 5 props. 1injured that he couldn't play another pulled up and effectively had 3 props Fair enough, honestly with todays side I agree with you more.

www.therugbyforum.com

Spongebob showing Patrick meme.

How does that quoted text show me the wrong post twice but when I click it it goes to the right post. Good job hackerman. You've truly hacked the mainframe

 

[Leinster Fan]

Harry Byrne is training with Ireland as Burns is gone. Connors and Lowe are out. Sexy and Henshaw are back. Earls and Herring are fine.

Ed Byrne out too.

What I'd pick

1. Healy
2. Herring
3. Bealham
4. Beirne
5. Henderson
6. O'Mahony
7. Van der Flier
8. Doris
9. JGP
10. Sexton
11. Stockdale
12. Aki
13. Henshaw
14. Daly
15. Keenan
16. Kelleher
17. O'Sullivan
18. Porter
19. Ryan
20. Stander
21. Marmion
22. H. Byrne
23. Earls

Porter needs/deserves a week off, Ryan could use a rest, CJ is coming off 2 not great games and no harm for a rest there too like Ryan. Rest is self explanatory.

Obviously back in real life I know we're going to start Earls and have Ross over Harry on the bench.

 

[munstermuffin]

Keep CJ out. Beirne, Murray 10mins, Same for POM and give Earls a break. And Conway too.

Realistically though it seems we are going as full on as we can. H Byrne won't get a run. He should but won't.
Betting is on which player will be lost for year through injury.

 

[munstermuffin]

Rumoured Team:

J Stockdale; H Keenan, R Henshaw, B Aki, K Earls; J Sexton (capt), C Murray; C Healy, R Kelleher, A Porter; James Ryan, I Henderson; CJ Stander, P O'Mahony, C Doris. Replacements: R Herring, F Bealham, John Ryan, Q Roux, T Beirne, J Gibson-Park, R Byrne, C Farrell.

That is what screams out experimental. Of the starting 15 Keenan and maybe lesser so Doris need more experience. At least we will learn what an Aki/Henshaw midfield is like, can Murray and Sexton play together?

Hope this is wrong. Interestingly Leo Cullen has seemed a bit peeved as Montpellier have their internationals back where he will only get few days with players that are shattered and is disadvantaged. Very interesting scenario.

 

[Leinster Fan]

Rumoured Team:

J Stockdale; H Keenan, R Henshaw, B Aki, K Earls; J Sexton (capt), C Murray; C Healy, R Kelleher, A Porter; James Ryan, I Henderson; CJ Stander, P O'Mahony, C Doris. Replacements: R Herring, F Bealham, John Ryan, Q Roux, T Beirne, J Gibson-Park, R Byrne, C Farrell.

That is what screams out experimental. Of the starting 15 Keenan and maybe lesser so Doris need more experience. At least we will learn what an Aki/Henshaw midfield is like, can Murray and Sexton play together?

Hope this is wrong. Interestingly Leo Cullen has seemed a bit peeved as Montpellier have their internationals back where he will only get few days with players that are shattered and is disadvantaged. Very interesting scenario.

Kellher too I suppose. If it is right Farrell over Daly on the bench is an iffy call.

Hard not to be worried as a Leinster fan, we're away to a big physical pack and we're getting our players back with a week to go. Ryan and Porter have played every game. Not to mention that there are only 4 games so a loss leaves us scrambling to catch up.

To be fair to Farrell he probably feels he has to win this so is going all out because of that.

 

[big ginger 8]

15. Stuart Hogg CAPTAIN (Exeter Chiefs) – 79 caps
14. Darcy Graham (Edinburgh) – 14 caps
13. Chris Harris (Gloucester) – 22 caps
12. Duncan Taylor (Saracens) – 27 caps
11. Duhan van der Merwe (Edinburgh) – 4 caps
10. Jaco van der Walt (Edinburgh) – 0 caps
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 36 caps

1. Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh) – 10 caps
2. Fraser Brown VICE CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) – 53 caps
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 33 caps
4. Scott Cummings (Glasgow Warriors) – 16 caps
5. Jonny Gray (Exeter Chiefs) – 60 caps
6. Blade Thomson (Scarlets) – 8 caps
7. Jamie Ritchie VICE CAPTAIN (Edinburgh) – 22 caps
8. Matt Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 8 caps

Substitutes:
16. Stuart McInally (Edinburgh) – 40 caps
17. Oli Kebble (Glasgow Warriors) – 4 caps
18. WP Nel (Edinburgh) – 39 caps
19. Sam Skinner (Exeter Chiefs) – 9 caps
20. Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 17 caps
21. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Exeter Chiefs) – 13 caps
22. Huw Jones (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps
23. Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 49 caps

 

[munstermuffin]

Kellher too I suppose. If it is right Farrell over Daly on the bench is an iffy call.

Hard not to be worried as a Leinster fan, we're away to a big physical pack and we're getting our players back with a week to go. Ryan and Porter have played every game. Not to mention that there are only 4 games so a loss leaves us scrambling to catch up.

To be fair to Farrell he probably feels he has to win this so is going all out because of that.

Also it isn't fully dependable on just your own games in a sense this year.

Agreed Kelleher too just shocked at how poorly his Autumn has been used. Keenan should be 15. But yeah James Ryan and Andrew Porter as well as I would say Keenan are high risk of injury.

 

[Leinster Fan]

15. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 32
14. Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster) 5
13. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 29 Chris Farrell (Young Munster/Munster) 12
12. Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 46
11. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 87
10. Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster 94 Captain
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 86
1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 103
2. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 15
3. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 31
4. Iain Henderson (Academy/Ulster) 57
5. James Ryan (UCD/Leinster) 31
6. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 45
7. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 72
8. Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 6

Replacements:

16. Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) 5
17. Eric O'Sullivan (Banbridge/Ulster) Uncapped
18. John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 22
19. Quinn Roux (Galwegians/Connacht) 15
20. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 27
21. Jamison Gibson Park ( Leinster) 4
22. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 10
23. Chris Farrell (Young Munster/Munster) 13

Sigh...

 

[munstermuffin]

At least O'Sullivan will get a cap. We leave a 7 on bench yet play with no 7 although can see POM there for Munster too.

As I said before awful use of great opportunity this window.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Murray, no Beirne and POM... lol, **** off Farrell

 

[big ginger 8]

The two things I said I liked about the rumoured team were Kelleher starting and Beirne being used as a backrow...

Happy we have an actual loosehead on the bench. Think that'll be the 12th new cap since the international season resumed?

Would rather not have Murray or Earls starting, although given the injuries Earls is a bit more understandable.

A performance is really needed now. This has been some of the shittest circumstances for a HCs first year so I'm not going to make my mind up either way until the end of the 6N. Definitely some worrying trends though.

The management of Porter and Ryan's game time as also been subpar.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Didn't even notice Herring...

 

[BPM]

15. Stuart Hogg CAPTAIN (Exeter Chiefs) – 79 caps
14. Darcy Graham (Edinburgh) – 14 caps
13. Chris Harris (Gloucester) – 22 caps
12. Duncan Taylor (Saracens) – 27 caps
11. Duhan van der Merwe (Edinburgh) – 4 caps
10. Jaco van der Walt (Edinburgh) – 0 caps
9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 36 caps

1. Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh) – 10 caps
2. Fraser Brown VICE CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) – 53 caps
3. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 33 caps
4. Scott Cummings (Glasgow Warriors) – 16 caps
5. Jonny Gray (Exeter Chiefs) – 60 caps
6. Blade Thomson (Scarlets) – 8 caps
7. Jamie Ritchie VICE CAPTAIN (Edinburgh) – 22 caps
8. Matt Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors) – 8 caps

Substitutes:
16. Stuart McInally (Edinburgh) – 40 caps
17. Oli Kebble (Glasgow Warriors) – 4 caps
18. WP Nel (Edinburgh) – 39 caps
19. Sam Skinner (Exeter Chiefs) – 9 caps
20. Blair Cowan (London Irish) – 17 caps
21. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Exeter Chiefs) – 13 caps
22. Huw Jones (Glasgow Warriors) – 25 caps
23. Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 49 caps

I make that 12 born in Scotland, 11 elsewhere ... getting close to 50/50.

 

[AlRums]

Scotland are perfectly capable of winning this

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I found it strange hearing James Ryan call Farrell "Faz". He's just captained Ireland to two completely sub par performances and is calling the coach by a nickname, Irish players have looked far too comfortable for a long time now. They all talk about how scared shirless they were of Joe's Monday morning video sessions and that clearly wore off too, no sign of that now.