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<blockquote data-quote="Umaga&#039;s Witness" data-source="post: 1037705" data-attributes="member: 65365"><p>He also plays the likes of moriarty or navidi at 8, and Sam cane for the chiefs. That's why I was surprised he picked three 8s and t made navidis omission even stranger.</p><p>p.s. are you guys aware that gatland lost every game with the chiefs in super rugby aotearoa last year? Every game. He took an unstructured creative team and made them play warrenball.</p><p></p><p>I think the jury is still out. After The all blacks got beaten by Ireland the second time the selectors stated that their props needed to be more mobile to keep up to the likes of England and Ireland, which ultimately resulted in Owen franks not making the World Cup. And then, at the World Cup, South Africa showed how important scrummaging can be in finals.</p><p></p><p>And, if you have a dominant scrum in the modern game, that is a bigger advantage than you can get in any other area, as you can get scrum penalties at least most times you feed the scrum.</p><p></p><p>so if I was a selector I'd look at it like this:</p><p>First, are there players available playing professional rugby that could dominate this particular opposition in facing, to the extent I can win at least three or four penalties. If yes, pick them, if no move to next step.</p><p></p><p>Are there any players that can prevent the opposition winning three or more penalties against us. If yes, within thise meeting this criteria pick those whose other skills are best. If no, move in to next step.</p><p></p><p>Pick loose forwards as your front row</p><p></p><p></p><p>In saying all that, a lot has to be said for scrum coaching. An under appreciated art in New Zealand that has made mad gains in the last four or so years. You'll often see a team get completely dominated in the scrum one week then make improvements. And a lot of effort goes into, successfully, analysing the opposition scrum. It's actually become difficult at times to predict what scrum will dominate in a game, especially after the first four or five games of the season, or in the second time two teams play each other.</p><p></p><p>I think this is largely due to coaches having gone to the nh to learn the tricks, similar to how the nh has learnt from the sh to play more open rugby.</p><p></p><p>Its a bit of a shame, I preferred the cartoon like characterizations that were applicable when I was a kid - that the nh were the masters of the set piece and the sh the masters of the loose. Made for a more interesting story and interesting games to see one style up against another. It's now becoming more like there is one style that is best and it's just how well you execute that matters.</p><p></p><p>what were we talking about again? Oh yeah, tangents. They're basically lines representing the slope, or first derivative, if a curve at a given point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umaga's Witness, post: 1037705, member: 65365"] He also plays the likes of moriarty or navidi at 8, and Sam cane for the chiefs. That’s why I was surprised he picked three 8s and t made navidis omission even stranger. p.s. are you guys aware that gatland lost every game with the chiefs in super rugby aotearoa last year? Every game. He took an unstructured creative team and made them play warrenball. I think the jury is still out. After The all blacks got beaten by Ireland the second time the selectors stated that their props needed to be more mobile to keep up to the likes of England and Ireland, which ultimately resulted in Owen franks not making the World Cup. And then, at the World Cup, South Africa showed how important scrummaging can be in finals. And, if you have a dominant scrum in the modern game, that is a bigger advantage than you can get in any other area, as you can get scrum penalties at least most times you feed the scrum. so if I was a selector I’d look at it like this: First, are there players available playing professional rugby that could dominate this particular opposition in facing, to the extent I can win at least three or four penalties. If yes, pick them, if no move to next step. Are there any players that can prevent the opposition winning three or more penalties against us. If yes, within thise meeting this criteria pick those whose other skills are best. If no, move in to next step. Pick loose forwards as your front row In saying all that, a lot has to be said for scrum coaching. An under appreciated art in New Zealand that has made mad gains in the last four or so years. You’ll often see a team get completely dominated in the scrum one week then make improvements. And a lot of effort goes into, successfully, analysing the opposition scrum. It’s actually become difficult at times to predict what scrum will dominate in a game, especially after the first four or five games of the season, or in the second time two teams play each other. I think this is largely due to coaches having gone to the nh to learn the tricks, similar to how the nh has learnt from the sh to play more open rugby. Its a bit of a shame, I preferred the cartoon like characterizations that were applicable when I was a kid - that the nh were the masters of the set piece and the sh the masters of the loose. Made for a more interesting story and interesting games to see one style up against another. It’s now becoming more like there is one style that is best and it’s just how well you execute that matters. what were we talking about again? Oh yeah, tangents. They’re basically lines representing the slope, or first derivative, if a curve at a given point. [/QUOTE]
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