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2024 Guinness Six Nations
[2021 Six Nations] Wales vs England (27/02/21)
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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 1022259" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>Whether on purpose or not I find it interesting that these arguments usually are argued from the perspective of a person from a big economy completely disregarding the massive increase of strength immigration provides their player pool while arguing that where you were born/live should be the only measures considered when picking who you can play for versus someone from a smaller economy arguing the opposite while showing a far clearer understanding of how close a connection diaspora can have to their country of heritage.</p><p></p><p>1st generation and in many cases 2nd generation immigrants can definitely hold a closer bond to the country of parents or grandparents than the one they grew up in. We also forget that the individual is far more important than the system when producing talent, no system can turn a gifted athlete with no motivation or work ethic into an international and a kid whose motivation is to play for the country he/she has supported since they can remember being told they can't stinks in my opinion. Sure there has to be rules but the stricter the rule doesn't equal a more genuine international game.</p><p></p><p>Saying that I think the rules are still too lax. Billy Burns simply put, isn't Irish, he qualifies through one grandparent and even has a picture up on his Instagram in an England soccer shirt ffs. One parent and two grandparents (potentially even two maternal or paternal grandparents) should be the minimum standard, you'll still find abuses of the rule but far less abhorrent ones than we currently see.</p><p></p><p>I don't know the specifics here but it sounds like a fairly legitimate case of a player playing for who he wants rather than settling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 1022259, member: 45598"] Whether on purpose or not I find it interesting that these arguments usually are argued from the perspective of a person from a big economy completely disregarding the massive increase of strength immigration provides their player pool while arguing that where you were born/live should be the only measures considered when picking who you can play for versus someone from a smaller economy arguing the opposite while showing a far clearer understanding of how close a connection diaspora can have to their country of heritage. 1st generation and in many cases 2nd generation immigrants can definitely hold a closer bond to the country of parents or grandparents than the one they grew up in. We also forget that the individual is far more important than the system when producing talent, no system can turn a gifted athlete with no motivation or work ethic into an international and a kid whose motivation is to play for the country he/she has supported since they can remember being told they can't stinks in my opinion. Sure there has to be rules but the stricter the rule doesn't equal a more genuine international game. Saying that I think the rules are still too lax. Billy Burns simply put, isn't Irish, he qualifies through one grandparent and even has a picture up on his Instagram in an England soccer shirt ffs. One parent and two grandparents (potentially even two maternal or paternal grandparents) should be the minimum standard, you'll still find abuses of the rule but far less abhorrent ones than we currently see. I don't know the specifics here but it sounds like a fairly legitimate case of a player playing for who he wants rather than settling. [/QUOTE]
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