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2024 Guinness Six Nations
[2021 Six Nations] Wales vs England (27/02/21)
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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1022266" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>Ultimately, I think you have to chose between one of two things.</p><p>A] Are you a product of that nation's rugby system?</p><p>or</p><p>B] Do you feel like a son/daughter of that nation?</p><p></p><p>The first is easily clarified, and I'm sure we could produce rules that everyone would agree to be a fair representation; even if it allows for multiple nationality up until the choice is made.</p><p>The second is absolutely impossible to clarify, and certainly not the right of anyone who isn't directly involved in each individual case to tell someone that they're wrong about their own feelings.</p><p></p><p>I know people who are immigrants themselves, and felt at home and like they'd finally found themselves in less than a year (she likened it to coming out of the closet). I know others who are 2nd, or even 3rd generation immigrants who feel more strongly that they belong to their "country of origin" than where they've actually lived all their life.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What we've got a the moment is a compromise between the 2 positions. I'm actually okay with the rules as they have become - residency needed to be put longer than 1 RWC cycle, it now is. I'd like it to be 2 grandparents rather than 1, but I'm not too fussed about that, given some of the people I know above (I've got 1 patient who's an extremely patriotic 3rd generation Welshman, with a strong Welsh accent; his mother was a proud, daffodile bonnet and pink glittery cowboy hat wearing Welshlady, and would be his closest relative who could have represented Wales under the current rules)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1022266, member: 73592"] Ultimately, I think you have to chose between one of two things. A] Are you a product of that nation's rugby system? or B] Do you feel like a son/daughter of that nation? The first is easily clarified, and I'm sure we could produce rules that everyone would agree to be a fair representation; even if it allows for multiple nationality up until the choice is made. The second is absolutely impossible to clarify, and certainly not the right of anyone who isn't directly involved in each individual case to tell someone that they're wrong about their own feelings. I know people who are immigrants themselves, and felt at home and like they'd finally found themselves in less than a year (she likened it to coming out of the closet). I know others who are 2nd, or even 3rd generation immigrants who feel more strongly that they belong to their "country of origin" than where they've actually lived all their life. What we've got a the moment is a compromise between the 2 positions. I'm actually okay with the rules as they have become - residency needed to be put longer than 1 RWC cycle, it now is. I'd like it to be 2 grandparents rather than 1, but I'm not too fussed about that, given some of the people I know above (I've got 1 patient who's an extremely patriotic 3rd generation Welshman, with a strong Welsh accent; his mother was a proud, daffodile bonnet and pink glittery cowboy hat wearing Welshlady, and would be his closest relative who could have represented Wales under the current rules) [/QUOTE]
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