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[2021 Six Nations] Wales vs England (27/02/21)
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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1024239" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>Most English fans I'm aware of don't say solely he was to blame but that he put us at a severe disadvantage. Generally when you are chasing a game and under pressure you tend to go for more high risk high reward stuff, which can backfire and make things even worse. The fact we drew level obviously goes a long way to negating that argument but then the alternative is that we would have been leading rather than tied and it would have been the Welsh needing to force the game. All ifs and buts. More generally though it wasn't just the try decisions but an overall theme of pinging England off the park for things varying from very minor issues he wasn't penalising Wales for to just outright wrong decisions. He also very disproportionately kept telling English players to stay onside (even when they were) whilst not giving the Welsh the same treatment. Wales had to really blatantly infringe to get penalised, England merely had to get into 50/50 territory for an almost guaranteed penalty. All of that piles up over the course of the game.</p><p></p><p>TL;DR we were poor enough to not deserve the win and gave away enough justified penalties to not claim it was entirely unfair against us but his performance was very poor and had a significant impact on the game.</p><p></p><p>Jones really needs to tell the team next game just drop the 50/50 on the edge stuff. Go out and just play REALLY clean rugby. Don't give anyone even the slightest sniff of an excuse to penalise. We have a well earned reputation for giving away penalties and something must be done about it. Contrary to the claims many like to make about us bribing the refs, we get penalised more than most sides and it's very rarely we end a game with a lower penalty count than our opposition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1024239, member: 56232"] Most English fans I'm aware of don't say solely he was to blame but that he put us at a severe disadvantage. Generally when you are chasing a game and under pressure you tend to go for more high risk high reward stuff, which can backfire and make things even worse. The fact we drew level obviously goes a long way to negating that argument but then the alternative is that we would have been leading rather than tied and it would have been the Welsh needing to force the game. All ifs and buts. More generally though it wasn't just the try decisions but an overall theme of pinging England off the park for things varying from very minor issues he wasn't penalising Wales for to just outright wrong decisions. He also very disproportionately kept telling English players to stay onside (even when they were) whilst not giving the Welsh the same treatment. Wales had to really blatantly infringe to get penalised, England merely had to get into 50/50 territory for an almost guaranteed penalty. All of that piles up over the course of the game. TL;DR we were poor enough to not deserve the win and gave away enough justified penalties to not claim it was entirely unfair against us but his performance was very poor and had a significant impact on the game. Jones really needs to tell the team next game just drop the 50/50 on the edge stuff. Go out and just play REALLY clean rugby. Don't give anyone even the slightest sniff of an excuse to penalise. We have a well earned reputation for giving away penalties and something must be done about it. Contrary to the claims many like to make about us bribing the refs, we get penalised more than most sides and it's very rarely we end a game with a lower penalty count than our opposition. [/QUOTE]
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