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(2022 Rugby Championship - Round 5) - Argentina V South Africa (17/9/2022)
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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 1101368" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>As Marx has improved his throwing he is clearly number 1 for the Boks in my opinion. The thing is a bad throw in can cost you on average, the length of an opponent's kick in territory (40-50 yards). Realistically a hooker can have the best game of their life and potentially not get anywhere close to making up the territory lost from one lost lineout (assuming props are more instrumental in winning scrum penalties than a hooker is). </p><p></p><p>Marx was awful at throwing, not just below average, awful. It was so frustrating as a neutral. So I'd be picking Bongi if I was coach and had any concerns about Marx's mentality or accuracy in big moments. But happily it seems his technique is now reliable enough that he's put those to bed so the only thing I could hold against him is he plays in Japan, but that seems to be a non-factor for the Boks coaches.</p><p></p><p>Also, Ledesma was the best hooker I've ever seen. I've never taken to Creevy at all because to me he was in Ledesma's shadow.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 1101368, member: 74121"] As Marx has improved his throwing he is clearly number 1 for the Boks in my opinion. The thing is a bad throw in can cost you on average, the length of an opponent's kick in territory (40-50 yards). Realistically a hooker can have the best game of their life and potentially not get anywhere close to making up the territory lost from one lost lineout (assuming props are more instrumental in winning scrum penalties than a hooker is). Marx was awful at throwing, not just below average, awful. It was so frustrating as a neutral. So I'd be picking Bongi if I was coach and had any concerns about Marx's mentality or accuracy in big moments. But happily it seems his technique is now reliable enough that he's put those to bed so the only thing I could hold against him is he plays in Japan, but that seems to be a non-factor for the Boks coaches. Also, Ledesma was the best hooker I've ever seen. I've never taken to Creevy at all because to me he was in Ledesma's shadow. [/QUOTE]
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