[2022 Six Nations] Scotland vs England (05/02/22)

[TRF_Olyy]

 

[retired9]

Buzzing for this, would be nice for Scotland to start a tournament well with a win and England are a massive challenge. Monkey is off the back re Twickenham, need to make the Murrayfield games count.

 

[Scotty]

It's bad that with all the squad dosruption i dont actually know what our 23 will be? Obv a couple of annoying EJ curveball but we do have few injuries/covid cases.

But tbh i do like our squad and am glad Faz is out tbh.

 

[will311293]

For once you would say that the Scottish XV is more settled than the England XV?

Making a guess at Scotland's starting XV but assume it will be: Sutherland, Turner, Fagerson, Gray, Cummings, Ritchie, Watson, Fagerson, -- Price, Russell, Johnson, Harris, DVM, Graham, Hogg

For England, depending on the injuries/Covid problems, it should still be : Genge, LCD, Sinckler, Itoje, Hill, Lawes, Curry, Dombrandt -- Youngs, Smith, Atkinson, Slade, May, Nowell, Steward

That England side could still vary hugely, especially if its true Hill has a knock and that Lawes may/may not recover from his knock.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'd guess that Hill is OK, as no cover was called up in the latest batch of players

 

[Geordie]

Marler is back training apparently.

lawes not so good im hearing...so i wonder how the back row will shape up?

6 Barbeary
7 Curry
8 Dombrandt

Why not go for it

 

[Reiser99]

I'd guess that Hill is OK, as no cover was called up in the latest batch of players

Isiekwe was kept, so suggests cover is needed somewhere.

 

[Geordie]

Isiekwe was kept, so suggests cover is needed somewhere.

Back Row...like for like replacement...ish?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Lawes isn't in the England team press shots, but Lynagh/Radwan are - presumably means he's at least bad enough not to be in the camp atm/on the day the photographers turned up

 

[General Melchett]

For once you would say that the Scottish XV is more settled than the England XV?

Making a guess at Scotland's starting XV but assume it will be: Sutherland, Turner, Fagerson, Gray, Cummings, Ritchie, Watson, Fagerson, -- Price, Russell, Johnson, Harris, DVM, Graham, Hogg

For England, depending on the injuries/Covid problems, it should still be : Genge, LCD, Sinckler, Itoje, Hill, Lawes, Curry, Dombrandt -- Youngs, Smith, Atkinson, Slade, May, Nowell, Steward

That England side could still vary hugely, especially if its true Hill has a knock and that Lawes may/may not recover from his knock.

Pretty good guess. I think the only question marks are whether Schoeman, Redpath and Steyn start ahead of Sutherland, Johnson and Graham. Really hope Redpath gets the nod as he has a bit more attacking flair than Johnson and has been unlucky with serious injury since his debut at Twickenham last year.

 

[will311293]

Pretty good guess. I think the only question marks are whether Schoeman, Redpath and Steyn start ahead of Sutherland, Johnson and Graham. Really hope Redpath gets the nod as he has a bit more attacking flair than Johnson and has been unlucky with serious injury since his debut at Twickenham last year.

Yh they were there ones i'd question. Sutherland form has been pretty poor for Wuss and personally i'd pick a combo of Redpath/Harris over Johnson although Redpath has only just got back so i reckon deployed off bench.
Forgot about Steyn, he's been class. I went for Graham as consistency on big stage for me but i know Steyn and McClean are leathal.

Also thinking i'd assume bench would be: Sutherland (if Schoeman starts), McInally, Nel, Skinner, Bradbury, Vellacott, Kinghorn, Tuipulotu (I'd pick him over Johnson if Redpath starts), Graham

Also does that mean Scotland only have one recognised starts 10?

 

[LIONSxv]

For once you would say that the Scottish XV is more settled than the England XV?

Making a guess at Scotland's starting XV but assume it will be: Sutherland, Turner, Fagerson, Gray, Cummings, Ritchie, Watson, Fagerson, -- Price, Russell, Johnson, Harris, DVM, Graham, Hogg

For England, depending on the injuries/Covid problems, it should still be : Genge, LCD, Sinckler, Itoje, Hill, Lawes, Curry, Dombrandt -- Youngs, Smith, Atkinson, Slade, May, Nowell, Steward

That England side could still vary hugely, especially if its true Hill has a knock and that Lawes may/may not recover from his knock.

May is out for the tournament isn't he? My guess is that Daly will fill in unfortunately. Much sooner play a proper winger on the wing

 

[General Melchett]

Yh they were there ones i'd question. Sutherland form has been pretty poor for Wuss and personally i'd pick a combo of Redpath/Harris over Johnson although Redpath has only just got back so i reckon deployed off bench.
Forgot about Steyn, he's been class. I went for Graham as consistency on big stage for me but i know Steyn and McClean are leathal.

Also thinking i'd assume bench would be: Sutherland (if Schoeman starts), McInally, Nel, Skinner, Bradbury, Vellacott, Kinghorn, Tuipulotu (I'd pick him over Johnson if Redpath starts), Graham

Also does that mean Scotland only have one recognised starts 10?

Yeah although Kinghorn has been playing 10 for Edinburgh this season and is pretty versatile (can also play across the back three). Hogg can also play 10 at a push. Bit controversial leaving Hastings out who can also cover 15 and 12. If Russell gets injured then I imagine Hastings comes straight in for the next match unless Toonie favours Kinghorn.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

May is out for the tournament isn't he? My guess is that Daly will fill in unfortunately. Much sooner play a proper winger on the wing

What about Malins?

 

[BPM]

May is out for the tournament isn't he? My guess is that Daly will fill in unfortunately. Much sooner play a proper winger on the wing

To be fair, all of Daly's best England (and Lions) games were on the wing. He was just a failed experiment at 15.

 

[retired9]

Yeah although Kinghorn has been playing 10 for Edinburgh this season and is pretty versatile (can also play across the back three). Hogg can also play 10 at a push. Bit controversial leaving Hastings out who can also cover 15 and 12. If Russell gets injured then I imagine Hastings comes straight in for the next match unless Toonie favours Kinghorn.

I think I'd put Hastings ahead of Kinghorn for the meantime being a 6N, Blair did OK in the autumn and has reputedly gone well in Edinburgh at 10 but I want to see him off the bench first to get an idea where he is at.

Need to refresh my memory on Redpath although I recall some excitement about his playing style, for me Johnson is pretty dependable - good hard running and a decent lick of speed although combined with Harris (has to start) yes it is more conservative.

 

[Reiser99]

To be fair, all of Daly's best England (and Lions) games were on the wing. He was just a failed experiment at 15.

best is obviously not a measure of how good a performance is. Your best can still be shite. I seem to remember Daly being a liability at wing, out of position very often defensively, poor when competing in the air to the point he got red carded. I don't see what he brings in attack that a specialist winger doesn't as well. Simple fact is he has always been a centre and was emergency cover in the back 3 at best. Problem was Jones's obsession with having playmakers across the backfield and trying to make every player capable of playing everywhere. For me that experiment has failed miserably. Instead he should be focusing on picking players in position with a focus on identifying players who are specialists in their positions and bring something extra. Not trying to force players into positions they aren't suited for just because he wants them to play. I said when Tuilagi was put on the wing that Jones keeps acting like a 12 year old on Fifa trying to put his favourite players into one team. This has been the problem for the last few years, we haven't had any consistency because we keep playing players out of position and eventually they are exposed and Jones is forced to change them when he could have picked a specialist player there in the first place and got them experience.

 

[will311293]

To be fair, all of Daly's best England (and Lions) games were on the wing. He was just a failed experiment at 15.

I also wonder whether he would slot in 13 and Slade push to 12. I would much rather we deploy Atkinson at 12 but i could see Jones doing that.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

To be fair, all of Daly's all his best England (and Lions) games were on the wing.

Not really saying much - he's only started internationals twice at centre so you're basically saying he was a better wing than FB which I think we'd all agree with.

But that doesn't make him an international class or instinctive wing.

 

[Geordie]

Malins must start on one wing.

Then the other is probably between Nowell and Daly...though id go for OHC....put some size and raw pace in there.