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2024 Guinness Six Nations
[2023 Six Nations] England vs Scotland - 4 February 2023
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<blockquote data-quote="TopTen2003" data-source="post: 1118112" data-attributes="member: 75257"><p>Have to say I agree- this autumn and yesterday in particular has given me those horrible 2006 vibes when we were scratching around for a proper midfield partnership and never really looked like being a RWC contender. </p><p></p><p>We've usually had a pretty solid tight 5 for England regardless of whether we had the back row dynamism of the top sides like NZ etc, but at this point we've lost that tight 5 dominance and we don't look like controlling any game - against any opposition.</p><p></p><p>Going to Dublin and coming off second best physically will leave us with an absolute drubbing. </p><p></p><p>I think Borthwick can do well, but he has big decisions to make from a leadership perspective because both Farrell and Itoje- who I would class as two massive leaders for England- are not performing on this stage. </p><p></p><p>When I look back at history - Sir Clive Woodward was brave enough to drop a Dallaglio or a Wilkinson or a Back, if he felt they needed to sharpen up and get back to their best. If they can, Faz and Maro can and frankly they need the message.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TopTen2003, post: 1118112, member: 75257"] Have to say I agree- this autumn and yesterday in particular has given me those horrible 2006 vibes when we were scratching around for a proper midfield partnership and never really looked like being a RWC contender. We’ve usually had a pretty solid tight 5 for England regardless of whether we had the back row dynamism of the top sides like NZ etc, but at this point we’ve lost that tight 5 dominance and we don’t look like controlling any game - against any opposition. Going to Dublin and coming off second best physically will leave us with an absolute drubbing. I think Borthwick can do well, but he has big decisions to make from a leadership perspective because both Farrell and Itoje- who I would class as two massive leaders for England- are not performing on this stage. When I look back at history - Sir Clive Woodward was brave enough to drop a Dallaglio or a Wilkinson or a Back, if he felt they needed to sharpen up and get back to their best. If they can, Faz and Maro can and frankly they need the message. [/QUOTE]
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