It's giving referees leeway. Referees at an amateur level are so reluctant to make any call involving head contact. We have an incident here where a player with horrendous body position gets away without a red card despite no third party mitigation - picking a loose ball up is now enough mitigation to reduce sanction is the precedent here. Reduction from red to yellow in the pro game far more closely translates to a reduction from penalty to play-on in the amateur game.
I keep seeing the argument of "what could he have done", no one has once questioned what he was doing in the first place to get himself in a position where he concussed a fellow player. It's the wrong attitude.
It's still been acknowledged as foul play (which I still think is the wrong call) and that it should've been a card, just yellow not red - it's not like it was a situation that could be replicated on a regular basis
The bolded is exactly what I mean above.
As for the rest, how can it not be replicated? It's a player picking up a loose ball, it happens every single game of rugby.
Ryan's dangerous ruck entry and Aki's dangerous tackle should be equally as/more concerning considering neither was penalised at any point in the game/citing process (Henshaw's is easily mitigated for)
I disagree that Ryan's ruck entry was dangerous, it was a controlled low paced movement in a static situation - injuries only happen here when players go flying in like POM v Wales awhile back - penalty only. Otherwise I agree and have said as much on this thread before, admittedly, getting frustrated and snarky.
Just to prove I'm not being tribal, here I am talking about Andrew Porter in the last contentious decision Ireland were involved in, he should have been sent off. I said earlier in this thread that the active/passive consideration should be gotten rid of. Bad body position is avoidable and in a tackle situation is the leading cause of head injuries through foul play in the game. Anything short of heavy mitigation from a third party should result in a red card and that's more or less how it had been officiated until this decision excluding the active/passive consideration.
I also didn't go and get my own clips to go *** for tat against the claims that the game should have ended 14v12.
For all the bluster we get about fans stopping watching the sport because of incidents like that*, playing numbers is probably the biggest issue facing our sport right now, the average age in the top 4 amateur leagues in Ireland is 22. My previous club fielded 7 teams when I was there and it had just been reduced from 8, it'll be 4 next year and they nearly went bust over covid but for a few innovative schemes to get donations. My current club has gone from three teams to not being able to fulfill seconds fixtures. You can forget about the women's game.
People do not want to play this sport and risk injury and head injury is the top of that list. The laws are written in a way, and have enough precedent, that could have upheld that red card and they didn't. I just don't see how I can, in good faith, convince a guy that he will be looked after as much as possible on a rugby pitch if he's having second thoughts when World Rugby are creating new reasons not to fully sanction head contact.
*Clear BS looking at ticket prices, Netflix interest and viewing figures!
Jesus Christ man, you whinge about us whinging and say "well all the officials agree with me and you think you know more than them?", now they have confirmed he actually got it wrong and you are on here doing exactly what you accused us of doing and making identical arguments (this is putting player safety at risk and making a mockery of laws to protect against head injuries).
The Steward incident was never a green v white thing for me, which might be difficult for you to understand. I have hundreds of posts on these boards advocating player safety, clearly unlike most on here it goes beyond the jerseys they're wearing. The social media fall out, RFU and citing commissioner have put clubs and grassroots rugby in a worse position today than they were last week over the past few days.
But yeah look guys, well done, England should have lost by 5 rather than 13. I'll continue listening to guys tell me the game is too dangerous and quitting in their mid-20s and discussing how to keep clubs afloat after the few games we can field a team for.