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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1013761" data-attributes="member: 56232"><p>There are 3 types of people in the thread, those who like numbers and those who don't <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree, a team with as many caps as England should simply not be struggling as much as they are. The only thing I did like when the game went into extra time is that England were able to stay squeaky clean when the French were within range of a penalty (or as the non-English would say, derr ref paid off by England not penalise them). It's just frustrating that if we can clearly play without conceding penalties when we need to, why don't we do it more? It's not like our defence suffered as a result.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A pretty fair point apart from how many teams have you seen win after losing the forwards battle and being unable to muscle their way anywhere? The idea of sides being outmuscled and winning through great creativity is the exception, not the norm. Creativity is built off gaps in play, turnovers or from front foot ball. It's very rare that a team that is going backwards against a defence that is well organised is able to overcome that with superior creativity. That's hardly an England thing, just look at what happened to New Zealand in the semis. Nobody would say NZ lack creativity yet they would have been nilled if not for an overthrow on an English lineout. If arguably the most creative team in the world can't use it to overcome being bullied then I think it's not fair to use this as any sort of criticism of teams.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1013761, member: 56232"] There are 3 types of people in the thread, those who like numbers and those who don't :D I disagree, a team with as many caps as England should simply not be struggling as much as they are. The only thing I did like when the game went into extra time is that England were able to stay squeaky clean when the French were within range of a penalty (or as the non-English would say, derr ref paid off by England not penalise them). It's just frustrating that if we can clearly play without conceding penalties when we need to, why don't we do it more? It's not like our defence suffered as a result. A pretty fair point apart from how many teams have you seen win after losing the forwards battle and being unable to muscle their way anywhere? The idea of sides being outmuscled and winning through great creativity is the exception, not the norm. Creativity is built off gaps in play, turnovers or from front foot ball. It's very rare that a team that is going backwards against a defence that is well organised is able to overcome that with superior creativity. That's hardly an England thing, just look at what happened to New Zealand in the semis. Nobody would say NZ lack creativity yet they would have been nilled if not for an overthrow on an English lineout. If arguably the most creative team in the world can't use it to overcome being bullied then I think it's not fair to use this as any sort of criticism of teams. [/QUOTE]
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