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<blockquote data-quote="RedruthRFC" data-source="post: 885952" data-attributes="member: 58362"><p>Great post, I don't disagree with a single thing you've said. I get really wound up by the lazy minded rhetoric from casual supporters / zealots that Eddie Jones is unimpeachable because of his record. The vast majority of wins under Jones are wins that should be a given for any England coach either based on the lower quality of opposition or home advantage. The 2016 Grand Slam was a pleasant surprise and it was good to see some consistency, but there wasn't a standout performance, the turnaround against Australia on their own patch was very impressive but what has been since then?</p><p></p><p>To an extent England are suffering by virtue of their lofty world ranking - in second place, far enough away from third that only a win over New Zealand would constitute an unexpected victory, with a loss to anyone else representing an unexpected loss. The big win against Scotland was impressive as was the win over Australia, but I've seen nothing to make me think that he's forging a side to beat the All Blacks, or to a lesser extent Ireland. New Zealand are the template for a world class team and Ireland (and latterly the Lions) have shown the world the blueprint for how to stop them. I don't see any evidence of Jones' England side being capable of following this blueprint.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedruthRFC, post: 885952, member: 58362"] Great post, I don't disagree with a single thing you've said. I get really wound up by the lazy minded rhetoric from casual supporters / zealots that Eddie Jones is unimpeachable because of his record. The vast majority of wins under Jones are wins that should be a given for any England coach either based on the lower quality of opposition or home advantage. The 2016 Grand Slam was a pleasant surprise and it was good to see some consistency, but there wasn't a standout performance, the turnaround against Australia on their own patch was very impressive but what has been since then? To an extent England are suffering by virtue of their lofty world ranking - in second place, far enough away from third that only a win over New Zealand would constitute an unexpected victory, with a loss to anyone else representing an unexpected loss. The big win against Scotland was impressive as was the win over Australia, but I've seen nothing to make me think that he's forging a side to beat the All Blacks, or to a lesser extent Ireland. New Zealand are the template for a world class team and Ireland (and latterly the Lions) have shown the world the blueprint for how to stop them. I don't see any evidence of Jones' England side being capable of following this blueprint. [/QUOTE]
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