A Political Thread pt. 2

[Welsh Exile]

Even worse. It means not a single lick of western values didn't stick. Tried to blow himself up on the holiest of holy days.

Can citizens get guns like this officer is holding?

Manchester synagogue attacker was on bail after rape arrest, police say

Jihad Al-Shamie, 35, had not been charged with the offence before launching a car ramming and stabbing attack on Thursday.

www.bbc.com

I think it would be worse if he was fresh off the boat as it were but I guess it depends on your perspective. It’s **** either way really.

I think the last thing we need is people walking around guns. I don’t think that would help the situation to be honest. I don't even think people would vote for that right given the chance.

 

[Saintjay]

I guess importing anti-Semites has consequences.

America prefers it's political killers to be made at home huh. Your Thomas's and Tyler's.

 

[McTallshort]

I think it would be worse if he was fresh off the boat as it were but I guess it depends on your perspective. It's **** either way really.

I think the last thing we need is people walking around guns. I don't think that would help the situation to be honest. I don't even think people would vote for that right given the chance.

We could always send the army into Manchester

 

[Welsh Exile]

We could always send the army into Manchester

Just waiting for Trump to come out today and say the UK is overrun with Islamic extremists with Sharia law being carried out across the UK.

 

[Saintjay]

Pretty sure giving more guns to people doesnt cause a drop in gun crime or terrorism.

On a serious note it was only a matter of time before someone attacked a Jewish synagogue in the UK.

 

[General Melchett]

And now we'll see the Fararge's and Robinsons of this world rubbing their hands together and use this an excuse to fuel further division and hatred against Muslims.

I was thinking about what @Ragey Erasmus said wrt to combatting Reform and I 100% agree with him in principle but I honestly don't know how you combat Reform. Everyone knows they are a single issue immigration party and while I'm not sure, my gut says around 80% of people honestly don't care about anything other than the immigration "problem" being "sorted"

I think if you said to a lot of people they'll be no change to education, health, wealth gap, transport etc etc but we'll deport loads of immigrants they'll be happy as Larry.

"Sorting" immigration would just force them to target another group. Maybe Muslims are next on the list. It was Eastern Europeans ten years ago when we were in the EU. These people always need a group/enemy to hate.

 

[Saintjay]

Maybe they could do something with the rise in antisemitism as well whilst there at it.

Some people seem more concerned about the rise in anti-muslim feeling than those felt by UK jews.

 

[ncurd]

Maybe they could do something with the rise in antisemitism as well whilst there at it.

Some people seem more concerned about the rise in anti-muslim feeling than those felt by UK jews.

Honestly I'm just worried about the anti-other growing out of control in this country over the last 9 years. Its always been there but it was pretty closeted for the most part apart from fringe groups before then. Now its pretty much mainstream.

 

[General Melchett]

Maybe they could do something with the rise in antisemitism as well whilst there at it.

Some people seem more concerned about the rise in anti-muslim feeling than those felt by UK jews.

I don't understand anyone who can only acknowledge one of the two or think one ranks higher than the other. Both need recognising and addressing. Jews shouldn't have to live in such fear today of all days.

I would really like to see cross party unity on this - maybe accompanied by message from the King. Starmer should be reaching out to other party leaders with a view to sending a united message condemning both. If another party leader declines the offer then they should be called out for it.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Maybe they could do something with the rise in antisemitism as well whilst there at it.

Some people seem more concerned about the rise in anti-muslim feeling than those felt by UK jews.

I think it's ****** now to be honest. I don't think the media has covered themselves in glory wrt the whole thing either to be honest.

As long as Zionism is equated to something inherently evil it doesn't matter if a Jew in the west is a Zionist or not (even though most are on some level) they’re going to be targeted by some.

 

[Saintjay]

I don't understand anyone who can only acknowledge one of the two or think one ranks higher than the other. Both need recognising and addressing. Jews shouldn't have to live in such fear today of all days.

I would really like to see cross party unity on this - maybe accompanied by message from the King. Starmer should be reaching out to other party leaders with a view to sending a united message condemning both. If another party leader declines the offer then they should be called out for it.

I've no doubt there are people in this country who would celebrate the death of a Muslim or a Jew. As @ncurd said anyone who's the 'other'.

We don't know the details yet but I don't think this will help Starmers cause vs Reform.

I don't think anyone party has really stood up for UK jews and the antisemitism they face. Whether they feel that this is because they don't want people to think they are supporting Israel, i don't know. The cynical side of me thinks it's just because it's not popular party opinion or a vote winner.

 

[AlRums]

Hamas military leader in Gaza objects to ceasefire plan, BBC understands

President Trump's proposal, accepted by Israel, stipulates that Hamas disarm and have no future role in governing Gaza.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[dirty harry]

I've no doubt there are people in this country who would celebrate the death of a Muslim or a Jew. As @ncurd said anyone who's the 'other'.

We don't know the details yet but I don't think this will help Starmers cause vs Reform.

I don't think anyone party has really stood up for UK jews and the antisemitism they face. Whether they feel that this is because they don't want people to think they are supporting Israel, i don't know. The cynical side of me thinks it's just because it's not popular party opinion or a vote winner.

You know the answer...

 

[AlRums]

Michelle Mone accuses chancellor of 'inflammatory' language

Her comments come after a firm linked to the peer was ordered to pay £122m over a Covid-19 contract.

www.bbc.co.uk

Standard conservative playbook, blame the left.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Michelle Mone accuses chancellor of 'inflammatory' language

Her comments come after a firm linked to the peer was ordered to pay £122m over a Covid-19 contract.

www.bbc.co.uk

Standard conservative playbook, blame the left.

The woman is ******* shameless. She profited by utilising fraud during a time of mass upheaval and suffering. The fact she isn't already in prison for the fraud she oversaw just shows there is no justice. They need to strip her of her damehood too.

 

[Saintjay]

All the companies been found guilty of as far as I tell is selling gowns not fit for purpose as per the contract.

Have they even any intent at looking at fraud or deception.

 

[dirty harry]

"British PM Keir Starmer has condemned the synagogue attack in Crumpsall but has not mentioned the blatant attack on the #GlobalSumudFlotilla on international waters despite the #flotille having British citizens on board."

 

[Ddanno]

All the companies been found guilty of as far as I tell is selling gowns not fit for purpose as per the contract.

Have they even any intent at looking at fraud or deception.

It'll be civil procedures to claw money back. So transactions at undervalue, preference payments, misfeasance, and breaches of duty. I can go into (a lot) more detail but you can probably get to sleep on your own.

The administrator has to make a report to the Offical Receiver within 3 months of their appointment regarding any wrongdoing they have found. That may trigger (should trigger) further proceedings for stripping them of company directorships and criminal proceedings.

Nothing happens quickly when you're allowed to hide behind a Ltd company, unfortunately

 

[Reiser99]

All the companies been found guilty of as far as I tell is selling gowns not fit for purpose as per the contract.

Have they even any intent at looking at fraud or deception.

The issue would be proving it. Easy to prove the gowns weren't sterile. Very hard to prove it was intentionally done to defraud.

 

[ncurd]

Starmer to protesters: 'Respect grief of British Jews'

The prime minister said pro-Palestinian protests happening at the weekend would cause distress.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is madness you can be pro-Palestine and recognise it like the British government has done whilst protesting the appalling situation in gaza.

Meanwhile utterly condemning making Jewish people unwelcome and attacking them.

(If Jewish people feel unwelcome by a pro-Palestine stance that still supports Israel's right to exist that is unfortunately their problem)