A Political Thread pt. 2

[Which Tyler]

Britain was sick before Brexit. Until the left accepts that, the likes of Liz Truss won’t give up | Nesrine Malik

Brexit was the wrong answer to a perfectly valid question. In order to win now, Keir Starmer must steer clear of the status quo, says Guardian columnist

www.theguardian.com

Well, yes.
We also had 8 years of tory rule before Brexit, it's the double whammy of tory austerity and corruption, coupled with Brexit that is really truly hurting this country.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Well, yes.
We also had 8 years of tory rule before Brexit, it's the double whammy of tory austerity and corruption, coupled with Brexit that is really truly hurting this country.

The one word that stuck for me was “identity”. Growing up in this country as a child of immigrant parents I struggled with mine, so I see how Britain made up of 4 countries has struggled with its own and still to this day.

The right wing Tories and the likes of Farage were able to exploit this with the easy answer of “taking back control” and Brexit. It was an utter nonsense.

There’s no easy route or answer whoever the Government is IMO until we as a country can answer this question.

 

[Reiser99]

The one word that stuck for me was “identity”. Growing up in this country as a child of immigrant parents I struggled with mine, so I see how Britain made up of 4 countries has struggled with its own and still to this day.

The right wing Tories and the likes of Farage were able to exploit this with the easy answer of “taking back control” and Brexit. It was an utter nonsense.

There’s no easy route or answer whoever the Government is IMO until we as a country can answer this question.

It's more than just identity as a nation. What type of people do we want to be? Conservatives pushed through their rhetoric nonsense of 'British Values', but the reality is that's not how the country works or acts. How do we want to been across the globe? Until Britain accepts that it's no longer this super power that the whole world looks up the better.

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

"Well we've brought back the bursary for nurses, which was scrapped before"
"Who was it scrapped by? It was by your government"

God they are ******* shameless, wanting praise for reversing their own crap decisions. It's like boasting about your decision to close the door after the horse has bolted and ignoring the fact you opened the door in the first place.

 

[Reiser99]

Pretty sure it wasn't the energy companies that needed taxing...

BP sees biggest profit in 114-year history after oil and gas prices soar

It is the latest energy giant to report record annual profits after oil and gas prices soared last year.

www.bbc.com

Shell reports highest profits in 115 years

Critics call for higher taxes on energy firms as Shell reports a record $39.9bn of profit.

www.bbc.com

 

[Which Tyler]

Pretty sure it wasn't the energy companies that needed taxing...

Correct - it was just the GREEN energy sector that needed taxing

 

[Reiser99]

Correct - it was just the GREEN energy sector that needed taxing

What is the windfall tax on oil and gas companies?

There is further discussion of windfall taxes after record profits from Shell.

www.bbc.com

so according to this, they have been taxed, but are pretty much off-setting it with investments.

 

[Which Tyler]

What is the windfall tax on oil and gas companies?

There is further discussion of windfall taxes after record profits from Shell.

www.bbc.com

so according to this, they have been taxed, but are pretty much off-setting it with investments.

Presumably, we tax-payers are paying it for them, just on a 5-year delay, due to that "gift that isn't a gift, and that you don't have a choice about" that Rishi gave us all in the Spring.

I'll be honest though - I hadn't noticed that they were being windfall taxed - I had thought that was just for the green suppliers

 

[Which Tyler]

This is... quite something... I'm just not sure quite what it is...

Dimmer than she appears or totally dishonest? Liz Truss may be both | John Crace

The former PM’s Spectator interview underlined that she is the ultimate survivor of her own financial destruction

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bada-Bing!]

There’s no point Labour winning unless it promises to dismantle our toxic electoral system | Neal Lawson

Britain’s first-past-the-post rulebook tilts politics to the right. But the opposition still refuses to back an alternative, says Neal Lawson of the cross-party campaign organisation Compass

www.theguardian.com

You got ask why Starmer and Labour don’t back PR? Is it because FPTP favours them too much as well as the Tories?

 

[ncurd]

There’s no point Labour winning unless it promises to dismantle our toxic electoral system | Neal Lawson

Britain’s first-past-the-post rulebook tilts politics to the right. But the opposition still refuses to back an alternative, says Neal Lawson of the cross-party campaign organisation Compass

www.theguardian.com

You got ask why Starmer and Labour don’t back PR? Is it because FPTP favours them too much as well as the Tories?

Yes

 

[Reiser99]

This is... quite something... I'm just not sure quite what it is...

Dimmer than she appears or totally dishonest? Liz Truss may be both | John Crace

The former PM’s Spectator interview underlined that she is the ultimate survivor of her own financial destruction

www.theguardian.com

Just shows how bad her policy was. She didn't disagree with Kwarteng who she chose to enact her policies, but then sacked him to try and calm the markets because they were panicking about her policy.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Putin 'supplied' MH17 missile - investigators

The aircraft was hit by a Russian-made missile in eastern Ukraine in 2014, killing nearly 300 people.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[McTallshort]

Putin 'supplied' MH17 missile - investigators

The aircraft was hit by a Russian-made missile in eastern Ukraine in 2014, killing nearly 300 people.

www.bbc.co.uk

You will be telling me next that the Pope is Catholic!

 

[ncurd]

 

[Bada-Bing!]

You will be telling me next that the Pope is Catholic!

He is. But what’s that got to do with this?🤔

Apart from finding him and the Russian state guilty of this there will be no justice for the victims Families. So may as well provide a clear narrative and link up to the very top if nothing for the families.

 

[Saintjay]

Should be going to prison Doubt that he will.

 

[ncurd]

Should be going to prison Doubt that he will.

Probably will be as he hasn't got anyone backing him as he got booted out of Labour long before any of this came to light.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Should be going to prison Doubt that he will.
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