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A Political Thread pt. 2

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The narcissists prayer:
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it

Now compare that to Johnson's justification for partygate. Spot any parallels? The only one not reached is that we deserved it.
 
Ragey Erasmus said:
The narcissists prayer:
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it

Now compare that to Johnson's justification for partygate. Spot any parallels? The only one not reached is that we deserved it.
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At my leaving lunch for work last year I remember getting into a bit of a discussion with one of my work colleagues who was trying to defend him and she was saying how his record on Covid wasn’t that bad and why he should remain PM and how he could not possibly have foreseen how bad it was going to be. This was a few months before he was forced to resign.

I pointed out his record was in fact a disaster and how he missed Cobra meetings at the end of Jan/ Feb 2020 to work on a book to make money to pay off his divorce and get married to Carrie, that he could clearly see how people were dying in Northern Italy at that time and that we had the highest death rate in Europe which he failed to heed. And he was just the biggest liar as shown by being sacked before as a journalist and from the cabinet before.

Two other of my work colleagues also tried chimed in to defend him.

I just did not understand this whole mentality of of “he’s not that bad” and seeing him through rose tinted glasses has an undertone racist theme.

From an ethnic minority, who was born and grown up in this country I can tell you it appears Boris being white and English (although born in the US) combined with his bumbling persona are the main reasons his supporters defend him and to give him more leeway.

Just a sad reflection of Conservative Party members who voted for Liz Truss but didn’t vote for Rishi and why they changed the rules so they couldn’t not vote him in.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
From an ethnic minority, who was born and grown up in this country I can tell you it appears Boris being white and English (although born in the US) combined with his bumbling persona are the main reasons his supporters defend him and to give him more leeway.
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From another ethnic minority (mixed race), who wasn't born in this country, I disagree pretty strongly when it comes to most people (though it will have been the case for some).

I genuinely think it was just a deference to perceived authority in a time of crisis, combined with a lack of actual interest in politics that may have been sparked by someone considerably more interesting than most, and with an undeniable charm.
 
Not Mike Brown's Sock said:
From another ethnic minority (mixed race), who wasn't born in this country, I disagree pretty strongly when it comes to most people (though it will have been the case for some).
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I didn't say most people. I was referring to my perspective. And I was referring to those who still continue to support him. The 3 work colleagues I was referring to was an extremely small straw poll and not necessarily reflective of all English voters of Boris. But still English and in their 50s middle class.
Not Mike Brown's Sock said:
I genuinely think it was just a deference to perceived authority in a time of crisis, combined with a lack of actual interest in politics that may have been sparked by someone considerably more interesting than most, and with an undeniable charm.
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I genuinely believe people who still defend him are blind to his faults because they subconsciously believe he is one of them so they give him more leeway and that is why they have been more forgiving of him even after the facts of his premiership.

I don’t think Boris has no real substance and this was clearly shown by those voting for him even knowing his record on being a liar. He’s no doubt got where did mainly because of personality and charisma. But sadly he’s a very flawed character and his leadership has cost this country a great deal (Brexit and Covid).
 
www.bbc.co.uk

Principal resigns after Florida students shown Michelangelo statue

One Florida parent complained Michelangelo's iconic statue amounted to pornography.
www.bbc.co.uk

So now to the far right lunatics in the USA, the statue of David is "pornography". You can guarantee these parents would have no problem with their kids handling firearms or watching violent movies but see a peepee? PORN! Get that man fired!

The best bit? Florida is looking to push this law even further.
 
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Just discovered this site. Not the best in terms of actually getting news per se but quite useful for seeing the difference in how news is presented based on the biases of the outlets.
 
Reiser99 said:
Like always the Tories have a real issue with morality. Just because the rules they made allows them to do this doesn't make it moral. Pathetic human beings.
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But but but Labour! Starmer! Bias! CORBYN!!!!
 
If there's a byelection - will he bother fighting, or consider it too much effort?

Boris the battler, has never been in character for the lazy sod
 
Which Tyler said:
If there's a byelection - will he bother fighting, or consider it too much effort?

Boris the battler, has never been in character for the lazy sod
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True. He’s earning more from the speech circuit and could no doubt top that up returning to writing his columns.

But like Trump he’s also power hungry, now he’s had a taste for it. He still believes he can return to be PM one day. Even if loses Uxbridge and Ruislip I think he would try for another safe seat. No doubt Tories will find another seat somewhere for him.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
True. He’s earning more from the speech circuit and could no doubt top that up returning to writing his columns.

But like Trump he’s also power hungry, now he’s had a taste for it. He still believes he can return to be PM one day. Even if loses Uxbridge and Ruislip I think he would try for another safe seat. No doubt Tories will find another seat somewhere for him.
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Not sure on that, especially with Sunak as PM. He's become incredibly toxic and pushes more voters away than he brings in. Only his die-hard fans and supporters would want him back and they are fewer by the day.
 
Reiser99 said:
Not sure on that, especially with Sunak as PM. He's become incredibly toxic and pushes more voters away than he brings in. Only his die-hard fans and supporters would want him back and they are fewer by the day.
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I think voters have incredibly short memories. He was a liar way before partygate, including his time as London mayor. There are many of his supporters who still back him despite partygate because he has that so called star dust which helped him win Brexit and a 80 seat majority for the Tories; and still don’t think he’s done much wrong. And Never discount how desperate the Tories can get during the next election If it comes down to the wire. Politics is ultimately about winning and power.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
I think voters have incredibly short memories. He was a liar way before partygate, including his time as London mayor. There are many of his supporters who still back him despite partygate because he has that so called star dust which helped him win Brexit and a 80 seat majority for the Tories; and still don’t think he’s done much wrong. And Never discount how desperate the Tories can get during the next election If it comes down to the wire. Politics is ultimately about winning and power.
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True, but then his time as mayor only really Londoners and those interested in politics would have truly seen his true colours. I doubt the wider electorate paid much attention other than some publicity stunts. Partygate exposed him to the entire nation and he can't wash it off as easily.
 
Reiser99 said:
True, but then his time as mayor only really Londoners and those interested in politics would have truly seen his true colours. I doubt the wider electorate paid much attention other than some publicity stunts. Partygate exposed him to the entire nation and he can't wash it off as easily.
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Him being fired from his job as an editor and losing his position as an MP for lying was also made public when he ran for PM, people of this country are just ******* idiots and would prefer a useless, malicious clown over a competent but dull person.
 

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