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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_Olyy" data-source="post: 1038972" data-attributes="member: 34990"><p>The thing with this line of thought is that Hamas is a small part of Palestine and the occupied territories - the vast majority of these deaths in Palestine are civilians getting caught in the crossfire</p><p></p><p>I'm, obviously, not saying that all deaths on the Israeli side are military as Hamas fire rockets indiscriminately (though Iron Dome takes out the majority of those) and bomb buses etc., but from what I've read the civilian causalities are heavily weighted towards the Palestinian side</p><p></p><p>Like you say, though, Hamas are happy to use human shields to fire these rockets/stash their weapons etc. but it doesn't make the accounts of Mothers mourning their babies, children mourning their parents etc. any easier to read</p><p></p><p>The whole political scene is a mess, and I don't see an end to it, but there needs to be an end to violence - and I think Israel could realistically achieve that.</p><p>I understand that they want to flex their muscles because they're surrounded by potential enemies, and they want to look strong in the face of provocation (though in this case it's retaliation not provocation) but, as I mentioned in my post above, the collateral damage in these shows of force is disgusting</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I imagine it'd be quite an easy sell, tbh - Hamas style themselves as the defenders of Palestinians in the face of the aggressors from Israel</p><p>Obviously I don't agree with it, but I can understand their popularity amongst an oppressed people</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_Olyy, post: 1038972, member: 34990"] The thing with this line of thought is that Hamas is a small part of Palestine and the occupied territories - the vast majority of these deaths in Palestine are civilians getting caught in the crossfire I'm, obviously, not saying that all deaths on the Israeli side are military as Hamas fire rockets indiscriminately (though Iron Dome takes out the majority of those) and bomb buses etc., but from what I've read the civilian causalities are heavily weighted towards the Palestinian side Like you say, though, Hamas are happy to use human shields to fire these rockets/stash their weapons etc. but it doesn't make the accounts of Mothers mourning their babies, children mourning their parents etc. any easier to read The whole political scene is a mess, and I don't see an end to it, but there needs to be an end to violence - and I think Israel could realistically achieve that. I understand that they want to flex their muscles because they're surrounded by potential enemies, and they want to look strong in the face of provocation (though in this case it's retaliation not provocation) but, as I mentioned in my post above, the collateral damage in these shows of force is disgusting I imagine it'd be quite an easy sell, tbh - Hamas style themselves as the defenders of Palestinians in the face of the aggressors from Israel Obviously I don't agree with it, but I can understand their popularity amongst an oppressed people [/QUOTE]
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