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<blockquote data-quote="ncurd" data-source="post: 1042931" data-attributes="member: 72205"><p>It's bitterness or sticking the knife in and he knows it. No point in pretending otherwise.</p><p></p><p>It does allow the Tories to still claim Labour are Party of remain but I'm really unsure how much of that will matter in 3 years time. If they are still fighting that war it will look very odd and might be only because Brexit is a shitshow so not one they'd be fighting.</p><p></p><p>On the other side it continues to show Labour are not the fear for traditional Tory Lite voters (which Bercow always was) that they were under Corbyn. We saw traces of that in the by election where apparently on the doorstop the stop Corbyn line no longer worked and people would quite happily let other parties in.</p><p></p><p>Lots of time and too small things to really gauge what's going on. But parts of shifts in mood are occurring.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for Bercow himself he doesn't have a peerage so doesn't sit in the House of Lords therefore I don't think anything precludes him from running as an MP. He'd be a ideal Labour candidate for a Tory/Lab marginal that's currently Tory with a large remain vote.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Most leave voters forget that whilst he was parliamentary face of the resistance he use to give the leave minorities in parliament loads of leeway. He actually did believe in parliamentary sovereignty and one of the reasons he ran for speaker and never leadership was he wanted to assert parliaments role in scrutiny of the government.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ncurd, post: 1042931, member: 72205"] It's bitterness or sticking the knife in and he knows it. No point in pretending otherwise. It does allow the Tories to still claim Labour are Party of remain but I'm really unsure how much of that will matter in 3 years time. If they are still fighting that war it will look very odd and might be only because Brexit is a shitshow so not one they'd be fighting. On the other side it continues to show Labour are not the fear for traditional Tory Lite voters (which Bercow always was) that they were under Corbyn. We saw traces of that in the by election where apparently on the doorstop the stop Corbyn line no longer worked and people would quite happily let other parties in. Lots of time and too small things to really gauge what's going on. But parts of shifts in mood are occurring. As for Bercow himself he doesn't have a peerage so doesn't sit in the House of Lords therefore I don't think anything precludes him from running as an MP. He'd be a ideal Labour candidate for a Tory/Lab marginal that's currently Tory with a large remain vote. Most leave voters forget that whilst he was parliamentary face of the resistance he use to give the leave minorities in parliament loads of leeway. He actually did believe in parliamentary sovereignty and one of the reasons he ran for speaker and never leadership was he wanted to assert parliaments role in scrutiny of the government. [/QUOTE]
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