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Rugby World Cup 2007
After watching the final...I think we need a change
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<blockquote data-quote="scuubasteve" data-source="post: 157476"><p>I think we have to accept and all agree that changing the amount of points for tries and penalty kicks is not going to help much.</p><p></p><p>If a penalty is worth less points (to try and stop teams from using it) then teams will infringe more, and less running rugby will be present. So essentially, changing the amount of points for tries and penalties is a catch22.</p><p></p><p>However, dropped goals (which were a massive part of the old game) are something which we can justify reducing in a game. If teams want to rumble the ball up (and by all means go ahead) I would prefer to see them push their way over the line and score points this way, rather than jumping back into the pocket and popping over a 3. Scoring a try from wave after wave of attack, close to the oppositions goal line, is one of the most exciting facets of rugby. It is usually difficult to accomplish, and should be worth at least twice as much as a dropped goal (not like it is now).</p><p></p><p>I will admit openly that dropped goals are a unique and important skill that needs to be maintained in the game of rugby, but the only time they are exciting is when the game is close (usually tied) and they are used to break a deadlock. I don't see how reducing them to 1 point would do the skill any disservice. I think it will give the dropkick a unique aura of being a game clincher at the death, rather than an easy substitue for a try, or a gamble to take when you've been given advantage for a long arm penalty.</p><p></p><p>As, for the claims that the new ELV's will make the game less messy and turn it into a repeditive and structured game like rugby league, have you watched any of the ARC this year?!</p><p></p><p>The ELV's are like rugby on crack!</p><p>With the new rucking laws there are soo many turnovers now that you never know who's going to come out with the ball and you often need a breather to catch your wits and reflect on things that have happened in the game. Every ruck is a massive wrestling mass of bodies and the larger amount of turnovers mean there is more disorganisation in defenses than ever before.</p><p></p><p>I will definitely not dispute that the game is far more intriguing under these new laws. I loved watching these games this year. And this coming from a Kiwi who has nothing to with any of the Aussie ARC teams.</p><p></p><p>I think that fans will be pleasantly surprised by what they get next year in the S14. But you may actually start to yearn for a little more structure (as I sometimes did) after seeing these new laws in play. It is definitely a step AWAY from rugby league!!</p><p></p><p>You will also probably see what I have talked about previously with the up-and-under kickathons.</p><p></p><p>However, I'm hoping that the Kiwi S14 teams will not resort to this tactic and that they will show the law makers just how exciting the game under these laws can be whenyou have skilled ball carriers and creative players (not just in the backs). These laws were made for NZ style players with all round atheticism. But it doesn't stop teams who want to rumble it up or play 10man rugby. It just makes general play more exciting.</p><p></p><p>The weirdest thing from the ARC was that it seemed that players didn't even bother to pull down mauls, because most teams just spun off and kept on going.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scuubasteve, post: 157476"] I think we have to accept and all agree that changing the amount of points for tries and penalty kicks is not going to help much. If a penalty is worth less points (to try and stop teams from using it) then teams will infringe more, and less running rugby will be present. So essentially, changing the amount of points for tries and penalties is a catch22. However, dropped goals (which were a massive part of the old game) are something which we can justify reducing in a game. If teams want to rumble the ball up (and by all means go ahead) I would prefer to see them push their way over the line and score points this way, rather than jumping back into the pocket and popping over a 3. Scoring a try from wave after wave of attack, close to the oppositions goal line, is one of the most exciting facets of rugby. It is usually difficult to accomplish, and should be worth at least twice as much as a dropped goal (not like it is now). I will admit openly that dropped goals are a unique and important skill that needs to be maintained in the game of rugby, but the only time they are exciting is when the game is close (usually tied) and they are used to break a deadlock. I don't see how reducing them to 1 point would do the skill any disservice. I think it will give the dropkick a unique aura of being a game clincher at the death, rather than an easy substitue for a try, or a gamble to take when you've been given advantage for a long arm penalty. As, for the claims that the new ELV's will make the game less messy and turn it into a repeditive and structured game like rugby league, have you watched any of the ARC this year?! The ELV's are like rugby on crack! With the new rucking laws there are soo many turnovers now that you never know who's going to come out with the ball and you often need a breather to catch your wits and reflect on things that have happened in the game. Every ruck is a massive wrestling mass of bodies and the larger amount of turnovers mean there is more disorganisation in defenses than ever before. I will definitely not dispute that the game is far more intriguing under these new laws. I loved watching these games this year. And this coming from a Kiwi who has nothing to with any of the Aussie ARC teams. I think that fans will be pleasantly surprised by what they get next year in the S14. But you may actually start to yearn for a little more structure (as I sometimes did) after seeing these new laws in play. It is definitely a step AWAY from rugby league!! You will also probably see what I have talked about previously with the up-and-under kickathons. However, I'm hoping that the Kiwi S14 teams will not resort to this tactic and that they will show the law makers just how exciting the game under these laws can be whenyou have skilled ball carriers and creative players (not just in the backs). These laws were made for NZ style players with all round atheticism. But it doesn't stop teams who want to rumble it up or play 10man rugby. It just makes general play more exciting. The weirdest thing from the ARC was that it seemed that players didn't even bother to pull down mauls, because most teams just spun off and kept on going. [/QUOTE]
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