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<blockquote data-quote="William18" data-source="post: 292933"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smartcooky @ Dec 11 2009, 09:19 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=426335" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p>I hate the points idea. It has so many flaws. One major flaw would be how the points are dished out. Who would decided it? Surely, one person would have to do it all for consistency but would this one person know enough about every single player in the ANZC? Even the ones that hardly ever play? The points system also discourages loyalty. If I was good enough I would play for Wellington for $1. However, say I was rated 10, Wellington had 8 players at 10 and you were only allowed 5 players rated as a 10. I could be cut from the Wellington side even though I have been to every home game in about the past 4 years, was born in Wellington, raised and schooled in Wellington and just thoroughly love the place. With a salary cap I could just sign on for less and play for the province which I love, with the points system I would have to go to a province I don't give a **** about. </p><p></p><p>The salary cap does need to be lessened to even up the competition, I have always said that. Even though the competition is already quite even. And, BTW, you saying that we poach players from smaller union is incredibly insulting and it's wrong. Players like Gear, Api Nakitini, Charlie Ngatai did not come from Wellington but their team is currently playing in the Heartland Championship. Most of our players have grown up and been schooled here. If you don't believe me then see for yourself <a href="http://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/our-team/player-profiles" target="_blank">http://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/our-team/player-profiles</a>. Most of them come from our proud Wellington schools like St Pats, Mana, Coll or Rongotai. The only players who we really took ( I hope I haven't missed anyone) were Mathewson, Kirkpatrick, Tipuna and Ramsay. Tipuna and Kirkpatrick would be unlikely to contribute much to their provincial sides. 4 out 0f 36 isn't bad, it probably is better than Tasman and better than many of the provincial unions. There are guys like David Smith who moved to get game time, you can't blame him for that. So don't make assumptions and think you are better than us just because you live in the provinces. Don't think we don't develop rugby and only poach players. We are a good union because we put time and money into developing our players, we have a good schools competition and we have an effective Rugby Union.</p><p></p><p>But, yeah, yeah, the bolded makes sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William18, post: 292933"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smartcooky @ Dec 11 2009, 09:19 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=426335']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> I hate the points idea. It has so many flaws. One major flaw would be how the points are dished out. Who would decided it? Surely, one person would have to do it all for consistency but would this one person know enough about every single player in the ANZC? Even the ones that hardly ever play? The points system also discourages loyalty. If I was good enough I would play for Wellington for $1. However, say I was rated 10, Wellington had 8 players at 10 and you were only allowed 5 players rated as a 10. I could be cut from the Wellington side even though I have been to every home game in about the past 4 years, was born in Wellington, raised and schooled in Wellington and just thoroughly love the place. With a salary cap I could just sign on for less and play for the province which I love, with the points system I would have to go to a province I don't give a **** about. The salary cap does need to be lessened to even up the competition, I have always said that. Even though the competition is already quite even. And, BTW, you saying that we poach players from smaller union is incredibly insulting and it's wrong. Players like Gear, Api Nakitini, Charlie Ngatai did not come from Wellington but their team is currently playing in the Heartland Championship. Most of our players have grown up and been schooled here. If you don't believe me then see for yourself [url="http://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/our-team/player-profiles"]http://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/our-team/player-profiles[/url]. Most of them come from our proud Wellington schools like St Pats, Mana, Coll or Rongotai. The only players who we really took ( I hope I haven't missed anyone) were Mathewson, Kirkpatrick, Tipuna and Ramsay. Tipuna and Kirkpatrick would be unlikely to contribute much to their provincial sides. 4 out 0f 36 isn't bad, it probably is better than Tasman and better than many of the provincial unions. There are guys like David Smith who moved to get game time, you can't blame him for that. So don't make assumptions and think you are better than us just because you live in the provinces. Don't think we don't develop rugby and only poach players. We are a good union because we put time and money into developing our players, we have a good schools competition and we have an effective Rugby Union. But, yeah, yeah, the bolded makes sense. [/QUOTE]
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