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<blockquote data-quote="Umaga&#039;s Witness" data-source="post: 1090686" data-attributes="member: 65365"><p>One thing I've found interesting after watching Leinster and Ireland over the last few years is that New Zealand's reaction to losing to Ireland is the exact opposite of what has worked for teams that have beaten Leinster or Ireland.</p><p></p><p>After losing to Ireland in 2018 we reacted by saying we needed more mobile forwards, particularly props, and ended up dropping franks for this reason. Meanwhile we've seen england, france, and La Rochelle (twice) beat Ireland or Leinster by bullying them with big players many of whom are not mobile , like Skelton and other Skelton-esque players. And now Karl is going overseas presumably because his lack of mobility is seen as unacceptable after our last loss to Ireland.</p><p></p><p>Going in the direction of what had actually worked against Ireland and Leinster in the last few years (ignoring the World Cup quarterfinal because we can't rely on them to make that many basic errors), if I was going to pick a 23 for the sole purpose of beating Ireland it would look something like this</p><p></p><p>De groot</p><p>Taukeiaho</p><p>Laulala</p><p>Romano</p><p>Retallick</p><p>Frizell</p><p>Savea</p><p>Sowakula</p><p>Fakatava</p><p>Barrett</p><p>Faingaanuku</p><p>Tupaea</p><p>Umaga jensen</p><p>Ione</p><p>Jordie</p><p></p><p>Williams</p><p>Aumua</p><p>Ofa</p><p>Whitelock</p><p>A ione</p><p>Smith</p><p>Mounga</p><p>Jordan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umaga's Witness, post: 1090686, member: 65365"] One thing I’ve found interesting after watching Leinster and Ireland over the last few years is that New Zealand’s reaction to losing to Ireland is the exact opposite of what has worked for teams that have beaten Leinster or Ireland. After losing to Ireland in 2018 we reacted by saying we needed more mobile forwards, particularly props, and ended up dropping franks for this reason. Meanwhile we’ve seen england, france, and La Rochelle (twice) beat Ireland or Leinster by bullying them with big players many of whom are not mobile , like Skelton and other Skelton-esque players. And now Karl is going overseas presumably because his lack of mobility is seen as unacceptable after our last loss to Ireland. Going in the direction of what had actually worked against Ireland and Leinster in the last few years (ignoring the World Cup quarterfinal because we can’t rely on them to make that many basic errors), if I was going to pick a 23 for the sole purpose of beating Ireland it would look something like this De groot Taukeiaho Laulala Romano Retallick Frizell Savea Sowakula Fakatava Barrett Faingaanuku Tupaea Umaga jensen Ione Jordie Williams Aumua Ofa Whitelock A ione Smith Mounga Jordan [/QUOTE]
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