its a old debate, but i was just thinking to myself the other day, that my favorite try would be the one [ben atinga?] scored in the 2003 npc final right at the end to win the game. and that of course this was when the all blacks were at the world cup, so it was a 2nd string npc that year, and it was one of my favorite seasons... and before i thought about this i was like, of course all blacks should be in the npc, or else how will s14 teams know who is good?!!? its all the grandpa players like marshall and oliver who are complaining anyway, but now i can see that it could work without abs. because of the lions tour, then the tri-nations, all blacks have blead into the npc and in the last few weeks they have been playing after a well deserved rest. and i personally think that the all blacks should not be able to play in the npc untill the 7th week. any thoughts?