Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Help Support The Rugby Forum :
Forums
Rugby Union
International Test Matches
All Blacks V Wallabies, Hong Kong, October 30th
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="nickdnz" data-source="post: 350887" data-attributes="member: 38640"><p>I think people are being a little too harsh on Toeava. Yes, he slipped and had bad positioning, but Nonu did the same earlier in the game, I think it was a lot down to the turf. His knock on was annoying, but that too happened to Nonu several times, and some think he had a very good game (I'm not one of them, and I usually think Nonu's fantastic).</p><p> </p><p>Both Toeava and Donald are in a similar kind of situation in a way. Both are stand out S14 and NPC level players, and both have been given plenty of oppertunities at test level, and not made the most of it. The difference I feel, is that Toeava has had the odd test in which he's looked fantastic, and regardless of this test, there does seem to be some gradual improvement. Slipping over in a test, while perhaps clumsy, could realistically happen to anyone, it's a mistake that doesn't really show a lack of talent or intellegence. Kicking the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock, into the field of play however, shows a lack of common sense. If he ran the ball up for a few more phases, the All blacks would have likely won. If he kicked the ball into touch, the All Blacks would have either instantly won, or at least been able to form a defensive pattern. If he passed the ball, and tried to run it out, they may have at least maintained possesion, and the All Black would have won. His tactic however, is my tactic, for when I want the other team to win in Rugby 08, and the clock is on over time. It was stupid, and it shows he can't handle pressure.</p><p> </p><p>If this wasn't one year out from the World Cup, then fine. He may improve. But he's been an All Black for two years now, and has shown no improvement. Yes, we don't know how well Cruden and Slade would have done in that situation, but it has to be asked, could they have done much worse? They were probably both watching the game, with a smug smile on their faces, knowing that Graham Henry (who's a good coach, but a poor selector) f*cked up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickdnz, post: 350887, member: 38640"] I think people are being a little too harsh on Toeava. Yes, he slipped and had bad positioning, but Nonu did the same earlier in the game, I think it was a lot down to the turf. His knock on was annoying, but that too happened to Nonu several times, and some think he had a very good game (I'm not one of them, and I usually think Nonu's fantastic). Both Toeava and Donald are in a similar kind of situation in a way. Both are stand out S14 and NPC level players, and both have been given plenty of oppertunities at test level, and not made the most of it. The difference I feel, is that Toeava has had the odd test in which he's looked fantastic, and regardless of this test, there does seem to be some gradual improvement. Slipping over in a test, while perhaps clumsy, could realistically happen to anyone, it's a mistake that doesn't really show a lack of talent or intellegence. Kicking the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock, into the field of play however, shows a lack of common sense. If he ran the ball up for a few more phases, the All blacks would have likely won. If he kicked the ball into touch, the All Blacks would have either instantly won, or at least been able to form a defensive pattern. If he passed the ball, and tried to run it out, they may have at least maintained possesion, and the All Black would have won. His tactic however, is my tactic, for when I want the other team to win in Rugby 08, and the clock is on over time. It was stupid, and it shows he can't handle pressure. If this wasn't one year out from the World Cup, then fine. He may improve. But he's been an All Black for two years now, and has shown no improvement. Yes, we don't know how well Cruden and Slade would have done in that situation, but it has to be asked, could they have done much worse? They were probably both watching the game, with a smug smile on their faces, knowing that Graham Henry (who's a good coach, but a poor selector) f*cked up. [/QUOTE]
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Rugby Union
International Test Matches
All Blacks V Wallabies, Hong Kong, October 30th
Top