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I have been toying with doing some editing of player attributes and calibres. However, to do it effectively i think I need to work out some benchmarks, so it would be easier to figure out what levels some attributes should be. I have been going through the attribute ranges for International and World Class calibre players and thought I would share what I have found so far. Hopefully with enough data some benchmarks will appear, making it easier to get an idea of how to edit players consistently.

Anyway, below are my findings for LP,TP, HK and LK, along with some conclusions from the data. My hope is to do the same thing for the other positions, and then have a look at national level players. One thing to bear in mind - the attributes of players seems to be randomized within parameters every time you start a new game (though obviously not any edited players you load up), so this data is not universal, though I figure it should be fairly representative, given the number of players at these calibres.

EDIT: added the range for starred national level players (taking a sample of 10 of them) these in square brackets[]

LP: International class (world class in brackets) range.
Aggression: [80-86] 88-92 (94-96)
Line-Outs: [68-77] 74-82 (78-84)
Muscle: [89-96] 95-96 (96-96)
Power: [78-88] 84-93 (89-94)
Rucking: [58-67] 65-72 (69-72)
Scrum: [84-92] 90-97 (90-95)
Strength: [85-93] 90-96 (92-95)
Tackling Ferocity: [78-87] 85-93 (89-95)

TP
Aggression: [77-85] 82-90 (85-92)
Line-Outs: [68-77] 74-84 (77-85)
Muscle: [83-92] 89-96 (92-96)
Power: [73-83] 79-88 (83-89)
Rucking: [53-63] 60-69 (64-71)
Scrum: [88-96] 95-97 (96-97)
Strength: [90-96] 95-97 (96-97)
Tackling Ferocity: [74-83] 79-88 (83-90)

HK
Aggression: [75-82] 81-88 (82-91)
Line-Outs: [83-92] 89-96 (92-97)
Muscle: [76-82] 80-87 (82-89)
Power: [68-76] 75-83 (79-85)
Rucking: [64-72] 69-78 (73-81)
Scrum: [83-91] 89-96 (92-96)
Strength: [73-82] 79-86 (82-90)
Tackling Ferocity:[78-87] 84-93 (91-96)

LK
Aggression: [75-81] 81-89 (85-92)
Line-Outs: [83-92] 91-97 (92-97)
Muscle: [83-91] 89-97 (93-97)
Power: [84-92] 89-97 (93-96)
Rucking: [63-72] 69-78 (75-82)
Scrum: [63-72] 69-78 (73-81)
Strength: [84-92] 89-97 (93-97)
Tackling Ferocity:[78-86] 84-97 (87-97)

What stands out from this for me is the difference the game has between LP and TP. An LP has much higher average aggression than a TP in the majority of players, especially at WC calibre. LPs seem to have Muscle at max or one below (95-96) whereas the TP has a much larger range, though a few do get up to 96. LP's are more powerful the majority of the time, with no TP having the power of a WC calibre LP. LPs are generally the better at rucking, the maximums being similiar but the LP minimum is much higher. Lastly for LPs, the LP has higher Tackling Ferocity than the TP. Where the TP shines is in Scrum and Strength - some WC LPs do reach near the levels of a TP's scrum and Strength, but all international and WC TP's have near as damn-it maximum in both.

I have worked out the average attributes for international and WC calibre players as well, which may be a more useful benchmark:

EDIT:added the average for starred national level players (taking a sample of 10 of them) these in square brackets[]

LP(world class range in brackets - only three of them)
Aggression: [83.3] 90.22 (95)
Line-Outs: [72.5] 78.11 (81.33)
Muscle: [93.4] 95.77 (96)
Power: [82.1] 88.22 (91.33)
Rucking: [62.5] 67.77 (70)
Scrum: [88.3] 93.55 (93.66)
Strength: [90.4] 93 (93.33)
Tackling Ferocity: [80.7] 88.44 (91.66)

TP
Aggression: [81.2] 86.07 (90)
Line-Outs: [72.3] 78.71 (80.8)
Muscle: [88.5] 92.78 (94)
Power: [77.4] 83.85 (86)
Rucking: [58.1] 65.28 (68.8)
Scrum: [92.5] 95.92 (96.2)
Strength: [93.7] 96 (96.2)
Tackling Ferocity: [77] 83.78 (86)

HK
Aggression: [78.4] 82.72 (85.28)
Line-Outs: [87] 92.36 (95.14)
Muscle: [78.3] 83.72 (85.42)
Power: [70.9] 79.27 (81.85)
Rucking: [68.7] 74.54 (77.28)
Scrum: [87.9] 92.72 (94.71)
Strength: [76.6] 83.27 (84.71)
Tackling Ferocity: [82.5] 88.63 (93.28)

LK
Aggression: [78.4] 85.83 (88.7)
Line-Outs: [88] 93.77 (95.4)
Muscle: [88.1] 94.16 (95.5)
Power: [87.3] 92.77 (94.8)
Rucking: [67.1] 72.6 (78.4)
Scrum: [67.6] 73.94 (77.5)
Strength: [88.3] 93.05 (95.8)
Tackling Ferocity:[83.5] 88.83 (92.5)

Hope that proves useful in some way!

EDIT: looking at the attributes of 10 starred national players I sampled, the gap between national star and international calibre seems quite a jump. Will be interesting to see if this follows through with the other positons.
 
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Format as post above i.e. [national w/star] International (World Class) calibres.

FL Ranges
Aggression: [83-91] 90-97 (94-97)
Line-Outs: [45-52] 49-58 (53-61)
Muscle: [73-82] 79-88 (82-91)
Power: [79-87] 85-92 (87-96)
Rucking: [74-82] 81-89 (84-91)
Scrum: [44-51] 51-59 (52-61)
Strength: [73-82] 81-88 (82-91)
Tackling Ferocity: [88-96] 94-97 (96-97)

N8 Ranges - only 4 WC N8's, so their numbers are a bit screwy in some attributes in comparison to international calibre ranges.
Aggression: [83-92] 91-96 (92-96)
Line-Outs: [79-87] 86-93 (93-96)
Muscle: [86-92] 89-96 (92-96)
Power: [90-96] 95-97 (96-96)
Rucking: [68-77] 75-83 (78-82)
Scrum: [55-62] 60-68 (62-70)
Strength: [83-92] 89-96 (95-96)
Tackling Ferocity: [83-92] 90-96 (92-93)


FL averages
Aggression: [89.6] 92.88 (95.58)
Line-Outs: [46.9] 52.22 (57.25)
Muscle: [76.7] 83.77 (86.41)
Power: [84.6] 88.6 (92.25)
Rucking: [77.1] 84.55 (87)
Scrum: [48.1] 54.22 (56.75)
Strength: [76.7] 84.33 (86.08)
Tackling Ferocity: [91.8] 94.88 (96.08)

N8 Averages
Aggression: [86.6] 93.18 (94.25)
Line-Outs: [82.5] 89.63 (94.5)
Muscle: [89] 92.54 (94.25)
Power: [92.9] 96 (96)
Rucking: [73.2] 78.63 (79.25)
Scrum: [58.1] 64.09 (65)
Strength: [87.2] 93.9 (95.75)
Tackling Ferocity: [89.9] 92.54 (92.75)
 
Looking at the averages for international players shows which attributes the game reckons are highest in which positons - probably useful when thinking about re-training players for new positons and what skills to train.


AGGRESSION: N8(93.18), FL(92.88), LP(90.22), TP(86.67), LK(85.83), HK(82.72)

LINE-OUT: LK(93.77), HK(92.36), N8(89.63), TP(78.71), LP(78.11), FL(52.22)

MUSCLE: LP(95.77), LK(94.16), TP(92.78), N8(92.54), FL(83.77), HK(83.72)

POWER: N8(96), LK(92.77), FL(88.6), LP(88.22), TP(83.85), HK(79.27)

RUCKING: FL(84.55), N8(78.63), HK(74.54), LK(72.6), LP(67.77), TP(65.28)

SCRUM: TP(95.92), LP(93.55), HK(92.72), LK(73.94), N8(64.69), FL(54.22)

STRENGTH: TP(96), N8(93.9), LK(93.05), LP(93), FL(84.33), HK(83.27)

TACKLING FEROCITY: FL(94.88), N8(92.54), LK(88.83), HK(88.63), LP(88.44), TP(83.78)

Numbers in brackets are the average attribute score for an international calibre player in that position.

Now I just need to go and do this all for the backs!!
 
Thanks chaps :D

Done the SH and FH, same format [national star] International (World Class) Calibre.

What I have noticed is that the gap between national calibre with a star and international calibre is normally quite large - I think perhaps the gap is a little too large in most cases, but that could only really be sorted out in a patch, as editing the database would only change things at the beginning, not the players who regen as you play.

SH Ranges
Acceleration: [88-96] 94-97 (96-96)
Creativity: [83-92] 89-97 (93-96)
Passing: [83-90] 89-96 (94-96)
Positioning: [69-77] 75-83 (78-83)
Skill: [79-87] 84-93 (87-96)
Speed: [79-85] 84-93 (87-95)
Stamina: [73-82] 80-87 (84-91)
Tackling Tech: [69-77] 78-83 (79-86)

FH Ranges
Acceleration: [79-87] 84-92 (88-96)
Creativity: [85-92] 91-97 (93-96)
Passing: [84-91] 90-96 (92-96)
Positioning: [73-82] 80-87 (84-91)
Skill: [78-87] 85-93 (87-95)
Speed: [69-75] 74-84 (78-84)
Stamina: [68-77] 74-83 (77-84)
Tackling Tech: [75-82] 79-88 (82-91)

SH Averages
Acceleration:[92.6] 95.5 (96)
Creativity: [87] 93.6 (95.25)
Passing: [86.9] 93,2 (95.5)
Positioning: [73.7] 78.2 (80.5)
Skill: [83.4] 90.6 (91.5)
Speed:[83] 88.9 (91.5)
Stamina: [77.9] 83.9 (87.5)
Tackling Tech: [72.7] 80.8 (81.75)

FH Averages
Acceleration: [82.8] 87.63 (93.12)
Creativity: [87.8] 94.45 (95.62)
Passing: [87.4] 94 (94.62)
Positioning: [77.8] 83 (87.75)
Skill: [81.3] 88.09 (91.12)
Speed: [72.3] 78.36 (81.5)
Stamina: [72.6] 77.72 (80.37)
Tackling Tech: [78.1] 82.81 (87.12)

Next up IC and OC!
 
IC Ranges
Acceleration: [70-86] 88-94 (87-96)
Creativity: [69-87] 84-93 (89-96)
Passing: [70-79] 84-94 (87-93)
Positioning: [75-92] 89-97 (96-97)
Skill: [84-91] 94-96 (96-96)
Speed: [70-87] 84-92 (88-95)
Stamina: [72-86] 84-90 (87-94)
Tackling Tech: [80-91] 90-97 (92-97)

OC Ranges (only 1 OC world Class calibre, so probably best to ignore WC here - in fact, only 6 International calibre OCs as well - a rare breed it seems!)
Acceleration: [74-80] 81-86 (83)
Creativity: [68-76] 74-84 (83)
Passing: [70-77] 76-84 (79)
Positioning: [88-96] 95-97 (96)
Skill: [73-83] 79-88 (82)
Speed: [68-75] 77-83 (84)
Stamina: [68-75] 74-81 (80)
Tackling Tech: [88-96] 96-97 (96)

WG Ranges
Acceleration: [83-93] 89-95 (95-97)
Creativity: [49-57] 56-60 (58-66)
Passing: [81-87] 84-93 (88-92)
Positioning: [58-66] 67-70 (69-74)
Skill: [68-78] 75-78 (78-85)
Speed: [88-97] 95-97 (96-97)
Stamina: [85-90] 93-96 (94-97)
Tackling Tech: [74-81] 83-87 (82-90)

FB Ranges
Acceleration: [73-82] 83-87 (85-91)
Creativity: [58-67] 66-68 (67-74)
Passing: [68-77] 74-80 (80-84)
Positioning: [83-88] 89-95 (95-96)
Skill: [78-87] 84-91 (90-96)
Speed: [83-92] 93-96 (93-96)
Stamina: [89-96] 95-97 (96-97)
Tackling Tech: [88-96] 94-97 (96-97)

UB Ranges - there are too few UBs of international and national star calibre (3 of each, with 4 WC calibre as well) for these ranges to really reflect that much.
Acceleration: [79-87] 82-88 (87-91)
Creativity: [64-80] 66-76 (67-88)
Passing: [76-86] 74-84 (81-95)
Positioning: [84-89] 91-96 (94-96)
Skill: [87-93] 84-91 (83-96)
Speed: [79-91] 76-96 (83-96)
Stamina: [82-93] 83-97 (82-96)
Tackling Tech: [90-92] 94-96 (95-96)



IC Averages
Acceleration:[78.7] 90.42 (91.85)
Creativity: [79.7] 87.85 (92.85)
Passing: [80.9] 88.57 (90.57)
Positioning: [84.9] 92.85 (96)
Skill: [89] 95.14 (96)
Speed:79.5] 88.71 (91.42)
Stamina: [79.6] 87.28 (90.85)
Tackling Tech: [85.3] 93.57 (94.85)

OC Averages - average for WC is actually just the one player's attributes, so not an average at all :)
Acceleration:[76.9] 83.8 (83)
Creativity: [71.8] 78.33 (83)
Passing: [73.2] 80.66 (79)
Positioning: [92.4] 96 (96)
Skill: [77.1] 83.83 (82)
Speed:[71] 80.66 (84)
Stamina: [71.2] 77.83 (80)
Tackling Tech: [92.7] 96.16 (96)

WG Averages
Acceleration:[87.7] 92.3 (96)
Creativity: [53.3] 58.66 (62.8)
Passing: [84.2] 87.33 (92.8)
Positioning: [62.3] 69 (72.16)
Skill: [71.7] 76.37 (81.83)
Speed: [92] 95.66 (96.16)
Stamina: [87.6] 94.33 (95.16)
Tackling Tech: [77.6] 85.66 (85.33)

FB Averages
Acceleration:[77.11] 85 (86.6)
Creativity: [62.88] 67 (71.8)
Passing: [72.33] 76.33 (82.2)
Positioning: [85.44] 92.33 (95.8)
Skill: [82.44] 88.66 (92.8)
Speed:[87.55] 95 (95.2)
Stamina: [90.88] 96 (96)
Tackling Tech: [92.88] 95.66 (96)

UB Averages - see not above on UB ranges
Acceleration:[84.33] 85 (89.75)
Creativity: [74.66] 71.33 (81.25)
Passing: [82] 78.35 (88)
Positioning: [86.33] 94.33 (95.25)
Skill: [90.33] 87.66 (91.25)
Speed: [85] 89 (91)
Stamina: [86.37] 92 (89.5)
Tackling Tech: [91.33] 95 (95.75)



Now the more interesting bit, the comparision of position attributes. Again, this based on the averages of international players, though for UBs I used the higher average of international and national starred, as the sample pool is so small for UBs and the possible attribute ranges so varied.

ACCELERATION: SH(95.5), WG(92.3), IC(90.42), FH(87.63), FB(85) + UB(85), OC(83.8)

CREATIVITY: FH(94.45), SH(93.6), IC(87.85), OC(78.33), UB(74.66), FB(67)

PASSING: FH(94), SH(93.2), IC(88.57), WG(87.33), UB(82), OC(80.66), FB(76.33)

POSITIONING: OC(96), UB(94.33), IC(92.85), FB(92.33), FH(83), SH(78.2), WG(69)

SKILL: IC(95.14), SH(90.6), UB(90.33), FB(88.66), FH(88.09), OC(83), WG(76.32)

SPEED: WG(95.66), FB(95), UB(89), SH(88.9), IC(88.71), OC(80.66), FH(78.36)

STAMINA: FB(96), WG(94.33), UB(92), IC(87.28), SH(83.9), OC(77.83), FH(77.72)

TACKLING TECHNIQUE: OC(96.16), FB(95.66), UB(95), IC(93.57), WG(85.66), FH(82.8), SH(80.8)

Haven't really analysed it that much, but was suprised about Skill - skill is supposed to include side-step etc, yet wingers seem to have the lowest score in it, which seems odd.
 
Wow ! You are really into this game. Great Stuff, well done ! :)
 
Thanks Casfan - i have just had too much time on my hands this week and once I started I couldn't stop!

Hopefully the figures will help people if they want to edit the database, or want to look at which attributes the game is setting for each positon to help with training etc.

Personally, I think there is too big a drop between international calibre and national calibre with a star - I would have like to see a more gradual falling away of attributes.

As to continuing going through the attributes, I think it would be interesting to see what forward attribute levels the game gives some backs, so if you are looking for a crash-ball type centre type you know what you should be looking for etc
 

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