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<blockquote data-quote="Prestwick" data-source="post: 93316"><p>Yes, we defrauded them, we are all a bunch of conmen... and you've obviosuly never been to Australia (specifically Melbourne) if your wetting yourself over these "inovations" the English Clubs are doing. And this Liberty Stadium, 20000 is preety small, even by NZ standards. If thats a decent stadium, New Zealand would have a truckload.</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p></p><p>Point one, 20,000 isn't "preety" small, it just about makes the grade, and as such counts. Deal with it.</p><p></p><p>Point two, obviously you haven't been to the UK, because we have this *really* popular sport called, "association football" or "soccer." I don't know if you've heard of it, essentially there are two goals and the aim is to kick the a spherical shaped ball in these goals without using your hands! Believe it or not, it is actually <u>really</u> popular, actually, so popular that its far away the number one sport in Europe! Anyway, believe it or not, about 90% of coverage on sport by the media and by people in general is firmly placed on this strange "soccer" phenomenon. Believe it or not, we're not all raging rugby fans, in fact actually, rugby fans are very much in the minority!! Thus its pretty hard for Rugby clubs here to boost ground attendances (although they have done really well) and their incomes can't really compare to the Super 14 clubs.</p><p></p><p>As you can see, UK clubs from England to Ireland just can't afford to spend millions to build 40,000 all seater stadiums with opening roofs and moving pitches in the current climate. Especially when the Magners League average attendance is 5,000 and the Guinness Premiership is getting about 12,000 average. The innovations are pretty damn good that they help finance the expanding of ground capacities. Again. Deal with it.</p><p></p><p>And point three, yes Japan were bloody cheated out of their World Cup bid. Japan's bid was better than New Zealand's in every way. Japan had the bigger stadiums, the better infrastructure, the more welcomming and hardworking population, and it had already organised and hosted the biggest sporting event on earth: the world cup for this strange sport called "soccer" (again, no idea if you've heard of it or not). Everything was in Japan's favour...except that it wasn't one of the big, traditional rugby nations and thats what cost it the bid. All New Zealand seemed to say was "well its our turn to host it, and we'll never be able to host one again." The latter claim was pretty strange, y'know, considering that New Zealand definetly is firmly placed as a prosperous western nation with GDP up there with the big boys and just general prosperity and good feelings across the board. </p><p></p><p>The whole process of choosing a World Cup venue was a total farce and exposed rugby as the Old Boys Club as it is. You knock England for being full of old duffers, but SANZAR, France, Ireland, everyone in the top ten all share the same goal: to protect their own interests and their slice of the financial cake. </p><p></p><p>And to be honest, it stinks. And I'll be really ****** off if New Zealand cocks up the arrangements of this comming world cup.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Prestwick, post: 93316"] Yes, we defrauded them, we are all a bunch of conmen... and you've obviosuly never been to Australia (specifically Melbourne) if your wetting yourself over these "inovations" the English Clubs are doing. And this Liberty Stadium, 20000 is preety small, even by NZ standards. If thats a decent stadium, New Zealand would have a truckload. [/b][/quote] Point one, 20,000 isn't "preety" small, it just about makes the grade, and as such counts. Deal with it. Point two, obviously you haven't been to the UK, because we have this *really* popular sport called, "association football" or "soccer." I don't know if you've heard of it, essentially there are two goals and the aim is to kick the a spherical shaped ball in these goals without using your hands! Believe it or not, it is actually [u]really[/u] popular, actually, so popular that its far away the number one sport in Europe! Anyway, believe it or not, about 90% of coverage on sport by the media and by people in general is firmly placed on this strange "soccer" phenomenon. Believe it or not, we're not all raging rugby fans, in fact actually, rugby fans are very much in the minority!! Thus its pretty hard for Rugby clubs here to boost ground attendances (although they have done really well) and their incomes can't really compare to the Super 14 clubs. As you can see, UK clubs from England to Ireland just can't afford to spend millions to build 40,000 all seater stadiums with opening roofs and moving pitches in the current climate. Especially when the Magners League average attendance is 5,000 and the Guinness Premiership is getting about 12,000 average. The innovations are pretty damn good that they help finance the expanding of ground capacities. Again. Deal with it. And point three, yes Japan were bloody cheated out of their World Cup bid. Japan's bid was better than New Zealand's in every way. Japan had the bigger stadiums, the better infrastructure, the more welcomming and hardworking population, and it had already organised and hosted the biggest sporting event on earth: the world cup for this strange sport called "soccer" (again, no idea if you've heard of it or not). Everything was in Japan's favour...except that it wasn't one of the big, traditional rugby nations and thats what cost it the bid. All New Zealand seemed to say was "well its our turn to host it, and we'll never be able to host one again." The latter claim was pretty strange, y'know, considering that New Zealand definetly is firmly placed as a prosperous western nation with GDP up there with the big boys and just general prosperity and good feelings across the board. The whole process of choosing a World Cup venue was a total farce and exposed rugby as the Old Boys Club as it is. You knock England for being full of old duffers, but SANZAR, France, Ireland, everyone in the top ten all share the same goal: to protect their own interests and their slice of the financial cake. And to be honest, it stinks. And I'll be really ****** off if New Zealand cocks up the arrangements of this comming world cup. [/QUOTE]
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