Australia vs England - 3 Tests - June 2016

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    I never said getting it away from the breakdown quick was a bad thing?

    ST holder in the crumbie. He's very limited and quite frankly there's probably 7 or 8 better English options than him
     
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    I'd definitely go for Ford-Farrell, possibly Te'o on the bench although I have never seen him play so I don't really know how to judge that. If he can play 12 and 13 that counts in his favour. He's got to be better than Burrell, and is presumably ahead of him in the pecking order now.

    I'd love to find a way to get some pace into the back row - mainly for defensive reasons, we were exposed a few times against Aus, and I think a fair amount of the issues out wide came from a) quick ruck ball and b) Backs vs Forwards mismatches - both of which are mitigated by quick back rows. However, Clifford is the obvious candidate and his defensive performance against Wales didn't exactly fill me with wonder. I'd have him on the brnch but on balance would stick with the slow back row from the first test.

    Would alsos bring Nowell in for Yarde, but I'd always have done that, and I can't see that EJ will.

    Yep. With Hask a good game always seems to be a one off, rather than leading to a run of good form.

    Noticed when doing defence analysis in the match thread that for the Kuridrani try (which came directly off a scrum) Ford was out on the wing.
     
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    Who are the 7 or 8 better scrum halves ? Care, Youngs, Robson and Simpson but who else ?
     
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    Micky Young ;)
     
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    Chudley, Cook, Dickson?
     
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    All 3 are really pushing it.
     
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    Pushing in what way?
     
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    Dickson is definitely not any better than Youngs, I'd argue Youngs is a few places higher if not more.
     
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    I thought we were talking about who was better than Harrison?
     
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    In being ahead of him.
     
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    We are . Cook has had a pretty poor season and even when playing well isn't better than Sam, Dickson is crap, always has been . Chudley is an interesting one but hardly streets ahead of Harrison like some are suggesting
     
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    Youngs, Care, Robson, Simpson, Wigglesworth, Chudley, Dickson and Cook are all better than Harrison IMO.
     
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    Wrong Thread...
     
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    You forgot to mention he's also a Class A tw@t...
     
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    I'm loosing my mind!
     
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    Dickson leads the way in bitching and moaning rather than getting on with it. The amount of fast ball he has killed through moaning rather than just taking the ball is staggering.
     
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    Ahhhh we will have to agree to disagree then . Wiggs is a one trick pony, Dickson (shudder) and Cook very meh this year but was quite impressive last year . I can see what you are saying though
     
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    Wonder if Andrew Johns might become a full time coach with England?

    Prob not but would be interesting, esp working with Ford and Faz.

    Aussie will be pissy though.
     
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    That would be bizarre... he's a died in the wool mungo AFAIK.
     
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