Australian strongest XV?

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  1. rugbywriter

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    There's been a lot of discussions about what the SA and Kiwi starting XVs should be for the tri-nations. Where do guys stand on Australia? Below is what I'd probably do, I realise I could be wrong in some cases as I am not an Aussie myself. Just keen to check what different people rate. I am also assuming that there are no injuries come tri-nations.

    1. Ben Robinson
    2. Tatafu Polota-Nau
    3. Ben Alexander
    4. James Horwill
    5. Nathan Sharpe
    6. Rocky Elsom
    7. Phil Waugh
    8. David Pockock
    9. Will Genia
    10. Quade Cooper
    11. Drew Mitchell
    12. Matt Giteau
    13. Digby Ioane
    14. Peter Hynes
    15. Adam Ashley-Cooper
    16. Stephen Moore
    17. Al Baxter (normally I don't dig fossils, but I still think this guy has game)
    18. Dean Mumm
    19. Matt Hodgson (I rate this guy stukkend)
    20. Luke Burgess
    21. Ryan Cross
    22. James O'Connor

    Probably will be quite a couple of disagreements. Must say there is a lot of talent coming through for the Aussies. Australia are going to be serious contenders in2015.
     
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    1. Ben Robinson
    2. Tatafu Polota-Nau
    3. Ben Alexander
    4. James Horwill
    5. Nathan Sharpe
    6. Rocky Elsom
    7. David Pocock
    8. Richard Brown
    9. Will Genia
    10. Quade Cooper
    11. Drew Mitchell
    12. Matt Giteau
    13. Digby Ioane
    14. Adam Ashley-Cooper
    15. James O'Connor

    16. Stephen Moore
    17 James Slipper
    18 Mark Chisholm
    19. Phil Waugh
    20. Richard Kingi
    21. Berrick Barnes
    22. Peter Hynes / Beale
     
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    1. Ben Robinson
    2. Stephen Moore
    3. Ben Alexander
    4. James Horwill
    5. Nathan Sharpe
    6. Rocky Elsom
    7. David Pocock
    8. Richard Brown
    9. Will Genia
    10. Quade Cooper
    11. Drew Mitchell
    12. Berrick Barnes
    13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
    14. Digby Ioane
    15. Peter Hynes

    16. Tatafu Polota-Nau
    17. Sekope Kepu
    18. Mark Chisholm
    19. Higginbotham
    20. Burgess
    21. Giteau
    22. O'Connor
     
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    Even though I hate James O'Connor, I think he'll be included anyway even if he is overrated fluff...
     
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    Strange comment. Almost defiantly a result of tall poppy syndrome after watching him play at schoolboy level. If I remember correctly you are an Ipswich fanboy, which means Rabbit probably broke your heart when he turned your school inside out and won the game in the last minute with a sideline penalty goal.
     
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    1 Ben Robinson
    2 Steven Moore
    3 Ben Alexander
    4 James Horwill
    5 Nathan Sharpe (c)
    6 Rocky Elsom / Scott Higginbotham
    7 David Pocock
    8 Wycliff Palu
    9 Will Genia
    10 Quade Cooper
    11 Drew Mitchell
    12 Matt Giteau
    13 Rob Horne
    14 Digby Ionie
    15 Adam Ashley Cooper

    16 Tatafu Polota Nau
    17 Sekope Kepu
    18 Scott Higginbotham/ Rocky Elsom/ Matt Hodgson
    19 Dean Mumm/ Mark Chisholm/ Hugh McMeniman (would be great if we got him back).
    20 Luke Burgess (played fantastic on the weekend)
    21 James O'Connor
    22 Kurtley Beale

    I don't think Rocky has played that well lately and if higginbotham was fit he'd be either 6 or 8 now. we need a bit of bulk in our pack and he brings speed as well. if not starting then on the bench.
    with the backs they are starting to jell well, if Horne gets injured or starts to play poorly id move Ionie to outside and bring Hynes onto the wing.
    the notable exclusion is Berrick Barnes. I think both O'Connor and Beale bring a lot more to the team, particularly as bench players. Barnes makes a lot of bad decisions and O'Connor and Beale have more spark.
    I also chose Sharpie as captain because he is a great leader and leads by example on the field, also Rockys position in my mind isn't set in concrete the way he's been playing.
     
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    Actually it's because he called me a c*nt when I went to shake his hand after the game....
     
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    Really? If that's true then what an asshole.
     
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    1. Benn Robinson
    2. Tatafu Polota- Nau
    3. Ben Alexander
    4. James Horwill
    5. Nathan Sharpe
    6. Rocky Elsom
    7. David Pocock
    8. Richard Brown
    9. Will Genia
    10. Quade Cooper
    11. Drew Mitchell
    12. Matt Giteau
    13. Adam Ashley Cooper
    14. Digby Ioane
    15. James O'Connor
    16. Stephen Moore
    17. Ben Daley
    18. Dean Mumm
    19. Scott Higginbotham
    20. Luke Burgess
    21. Berrick Barnes
    22. Peter Hynes

    Ashley Cooper at Outside over Ioane just because his hands are so much better than digbys
     
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    But AA-C is one of the best fullbacks in the world. WHy would you want him at centre?
     
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    Was thinking that as well,
    JOC had a good game against the mid-week England team, and did well against England, but AAC is a lot better imo
    Are Australia that short on wings that they've got to play AAC out of position?

    On a side note, i'm very impressed with Drew Mitchell atm, he's got bags of pace, and hits some cracking lines
     
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    I wouldn't say that. I think they've got tons of talent on the wings. I think Robbie Deans just isn't utilizing it properly
     
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    hes played at outside a few times for the wallabies and plays there a lot for the brumbies. i just like the look of him there and with oconnor at full back but you could also have horne or ioane at outside and AAC at fullback with oconnor on the bench
     
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    Does anyone know when the Australian Tri-Nations squad will be announced?Or has it been announced already and I just missed it somehow?
     
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    It has been announced already, I will try find a link...
     
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    I can agree with most of the line ups suggested here, but I would also include Stirling, as most of the S14 games I saw he played some good rugby
     
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    I thought Stirling got injured half-way through the S14, and was set to miss the Tri-Nations?
     
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    Well to be honest, I only followed the S14 until March, due to work.
    But whenever there is a possibility he could play, the coach should hive him a chance.
     
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    O'Connor is a good runner of the ball in open space, but he's still far too inconsistent with high balls to be at fullback in a tournament as tough as the Tri Nations. Maybe after he gets a little older, bigger and less rattly, but now he should really just be a reserve to run the forwards ragged in the last 20 IMO.
     
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    As for our strongest XV:

    1. Ben Robinson
    2. Tatafu Polota-Nau
    3. Ben Alexander
    4. James Horwill
    5. Nathan Sharpe
    6. Rocky Elsom
    7. David Pockock
    8. Wycliff Palu
    9. Will Genia
    10. Quade Cooper
    11. Peter Hynes
    12. Berrick Barnes (better kicking game/defence than Giteau - who IMO is way out of form)
    13. Rob Horne
    14. Digby Ioane
    15. Adam Ashley-Cooper

    Reserves:
    16. Stephan More
    17. Sekope Kepu
    18. Phil Waugh
    19. Matt Giteau
    20. James O'Connor
    21. Lachlan Turner
    22. Luke Burgess
     
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