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Barrett ahead of Cruden? Carter near the end?
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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 598173" data-attributes="member: 43875"><p>Im saying sure Barretts technique wasn't perfect but watch it again and look how low and hard JVD goes, he wasn't trying to offload, pass or step he was 100% focused on doing what he did. I don't think Cruden would have made that tackle and I even think carter would have struggled to make it. and carter's probably the best 10 in the world on defense. No slight on Cruden either, Crudens defense is great for his size but the fact hes usually the smallest guy on the park will mean he can and does get bumped off on occasion, I think Cruden was the only chief to appear on the list of top missed tackles in super rugby, obviously still ahead of Barrett. Cruden generally makes up for it with some pretty epic work on cover defense, Barrett clearly does the same.</p><p></p><p>if anything its pretty harsh making anything of this tackle when others including Cruden missed tackles, and barrett not only came up with a bit of brilliance to score the championship clinching try but he also came up with a try saving tackle that very few maybe no other player could pull off.</p><p></p><p>yes the tackle is a mark against him but how do you or anyone else think his defense overall has been during this championship? I honestly think he would have exceeded everyone's expectations in terms of his defense, hes made a lot of very good tackles. Evenyone knows its an area he needs to improve and he clearly has.</p><p></p><p>No one could clearly say Cruden is ahead of Barrett right now. Cruden has a bit more experience, but Barrett has the momentum and current form. Generally in terms of where Barrett has been for his age - he has always been ahead of where Cruden was, to the point now where both being fit they are fairly Even - Barrett is still 2.5years younger.</p><p></p><p>its not clear cut though, IMO they have contrasting makeups ,when I compare the two:</p><p></p><p>In Cruden I see a hard worker and leader who seems to have experience and an eye for the game well beyond his years. hes like 24 now but plays like a vet.</p><p></p><p>Barrett to me is a true natural, gifted with a ridiculous amount of speed for a skinny white kid and an uncanny natural ability to see and create space and just make rugby look easy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 598173, member: 43875"] Im saying sure Barretts technique wasn't perfect but watch it again and look how low and hard JVD goes, he wasn't trying to offload, pass or step he was 100% focused on doing what he did. I don't think Cruden would have made that tackle and I even think carter would have struggled to make it. and carter's probably the best 10 in the world on defense. No slight on Cruden either, Crudens defense is great for his size but the fact hes usually the smallest guy on the park will mean he can and does get bumped off on occasion, I think Cruden was the only chief to appear on the list of top missed tackles in super rugby, obviously still ahead of Barrett. Cruden generally makes up for it with some pretty epic work on cover defense, Barrett clearly does the same. if anything its pretty harsh making anything of this tackle when others including Cruden missed tackles, and barrett not only came up with a bit of brilliance to score the championship clinching try but he also came up with a try saving tackle that very few maybe no other player could pull off. yes the tackle is a mark against him but how do you or anyone else think his defense overall has been during this championship? I honestly think he would have exceeded everyone's expectations in terms of his defense, hes made a lot of very good tackles. Evenyone knows its an area he needs to improve and he clearly has. No one could clearly say Cruden is ahead of Barrett right now. Cruden has a bit more experience, but Barrett has the momentum and current form. Generally in terms of where Barrett has been for his age - he has always been ahead of where Cruden was, to the point now where both being fit they are fairly Even - Barrett is still 2.5years younger. its not clear cut though, IMO they have contrasting makeups ,when I compare the two: In Cruden I see a hard worker and leader who seems to have experience and an eye for the game well beyond his years. hes like 24 now but plays like a vet. Barrett to me is a true natural, gifted with a ridiculous amount of speed for a skinny white kid and an uncanny natural ability to see and create space and just make rugby look easy. [/QUOTE]
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