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lemon

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Hey everyone...

Just an idea to ponder.

When NBALive2005 was released a lot of analysis was done by passionate players on the acuracy of the stats. One major gripe they had was the blocks. TOO MANY BLOCKS was the cry. No NBA team gets that many blocks. My guy had 7 blocks. My team got 12 blocks. Etc etc etc.

What people failed to realise was that these things DO HAPPEN in the real game. Team will finish a game with 12 blocks in real life. And same goes with Rugby results.

So, when you are complaining about difficulty levels and score margins, just stop and think: because I don't like that it happened, does it mean it wouldn't happen?

On a given day a team will turn over the ball a lot. On a given day a team will score a lot of tries or not many, or will miss a bunch of kicks or make a bunch. I realise that we don't want random happenings ruining a game we may be winning, or for a team to beat another team too easily. However there may be a day when Australia really struggles to get over Arentina. Or Wales downs NZ.

Example: the TAB picked the Blues to beat the Chiefs in the weekend by 13+ points. In the end result the Blues didn't even score a try.

Note: I'm not talking gameplay here but results. When someone says I should be able to beat Ireland on hard with NZ there is more at work that just what you think...

Comments? Discuss?
 
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Humphreys

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i wasnt sayin nothin i was just making sure it was on hard coz a minute ago i couldnt beat italy with new zealand mate
 
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sanzar

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I think the major problem with hard is that they just do the cheap old trick of increasing the stats... You won't score much against the AI true, but the AI is still utterly useless in attack and can't score tries agains you either, so it just makes for a boring match...
 
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Gay-Guy

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Just like JLR, playing against the computer is just to get familiar with the controls before you play against a human player. THAT is the real guts of a sports game.

AI intelligence will always be set a certain way. Unlike a human. The greatest chess players in the world would rather play against a person than against a computer because people have VARIETY in their calculations. Even though the worlds No1 chess player will always get beaten by the computer there is a good chance that he will still be able to see the dull certainty of each of the computers moves.

Competitions and tournaments in a sports game are good but nothing beats the thrill of defeating a free thinker rather than a robot. The programme is so dull when you realise it is all reactionary (I do this, programme does that). With even some of the dullest humans you will get a surprise once in a while (Oh....I'll just run around his centre again cos he never tackles me there.......what the hell!!!!).

Computer games were fun in the 80's because you were essentially playing against yourself (games where the stages got harder and it became a skill and reflex thing). Nowadays they have sports games where there is meant to be a level playing field where there is a team (yours) against another (computers). Technology has not advanced that far yet where computers simulate peoples unpredictability.

So if you are expecting some far out experience against the computer then expect to be disappointed for now (one day AI will be up to it). With R2005 it is best to go find a friend to play with.
 
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C A Iversen

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I could not agree more !!!
Gay-Guy don't you think there should be more people interested in the multi-player than there are?
 
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kinkon89

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im still waiting for my copy of the fullversion rugby 2005.........until then i have the demo....i saw in the options menu during play and saw an option to change when knock on's happen.......but obviously you cant change it in the demo...is that in the fullversion? and if it is does it come in handy?
 
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Los Lover

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Originally posted by kinkon89@Mar 15 2005, 10:54 PM
im still waiting for my copy of the fullversion rugby 2005.........until then i have the demo....i saw in the options menu during play and saw an option to change when knock on's happen.......but obviously you cant change it in the demo...is that in the fullversion? and if it is does it come in handy?
Yes!

has been covered...

there are sliders for frequency of:

knock-ons and a couple of other things...damn it! Can't recall other two.

the answer to your question though is YES, they are in there.
 
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kinkon89

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thanx

will it come in handy when you slide it to no knock ons on easy?

cos from the demo there seems to be alot of knock ons
 
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Los Lover

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Originally posted by kinkon89@Mar 15 2005, 11:06 PM
thanx

will it come in handy when you slide it to no knock ons on easy?

cos from the demo there seems to be alot of knock ons
Well, I suppose so...

But I don't even have the demo...
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However through sharing comments on this thread I have tracked you down in your house by GPS satellite and am now standing right behind you.

<<ahem>>

"Gimme me that dang thing...or you sleep with the fishes."

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CeeJay

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Does anyone know if you can have multiple users in one comp like in jonahs, otherwise even multiplayer will get boring if your just doing exhibition after exhibition.
 
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Los Lover

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Originally posted by CeeJay@Mar 15 2005, 11:16 PM
Does anyone know if you can have multiple users in one comp like in jonahs, otherwise even multiplayer will get boring if your just doing exhibition after exhibition.
I read you could my friend....

and if you think about it - of course you can...

you just choose user for more than one team - you can do it in 2004!!

Feasibly - you could have three guys warring on the tri nations...hell, how about 12 players in the super 12!!!! With a game against a new mate every round!! Boring to wait around betwen - but still...wow!!!

If you mean can, say, two players play for NZ and say Two players play SA and Two players play Oz etc etc.....I'm not sure.

But here's hoping my brother....

I love my new patch by the way...

Go my hearty!!!!
 
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jimmy44

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Originally posted by sanzar@Mar 15 2005, 06:58 PM
I think the major problem with hard is that they just do the cheap old trick of increasing the stats... You won't score much against the AI true, but the AI is still utterly useless in attack and can't score tries agains you either, so it just makes for a boring match...
Is this really true? I've heard loads of people saying the Ai is quite good in attack
 
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captainamerica

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Originally posted by jimmy44+Mar 16 2005, 06:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jimmy44 @ Mar 16 2005, 06:02 AM)</div>
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@Mar 15 2005, 06:58 PM
I think the major problem with hard is that they just do the cheap old trick of increasing the stats... You won't score much against the AI true, but the AI is still utterly useless in attack and can't score tries agains you either, so it just makes for a boring match...
Is this really true? I've heard loads of people saying the Ai is quite good in attack [/b]
not necessarily, and really depends on who you are playing against.
 
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Gay-Guy

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Originally posted by C A Iversen@Mar 15 2005, 09:50 PM
Gay-Guy don't you think there should be more people interested in the multi-player than there are?
That is what you'd think.

Though a lot of TRF members live in rugby starved places so they would probably have to wait for online rugby regarding multiplayer.
 
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sanzar

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Originally posted by jimmy44+Mar 16 2005, 06:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jimmy44 @ Mar 16 2005, 06:02 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-sanzar
@Mar 15 2005, 06:58 PM
I think the major problem with hard is that they just do the cheap old trick of increasing the stats... You won't score much against the AI true, but the AI is still utterly useless in attack and can't score tries agains you either, so it just makes for a boring match...
Is this really true? I've heard loads of people saying the Ai is quite good in attack [/b]
You may think it is at first, but even in my first game (on medium) I figured it out pretty quickly... I was playing as NSW v QLD and I won 35-7 after they scored the first try...
The AI uses heaps of dummy runs etc, but once you've seen it you know which players to take out and you send them backwards...
 
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sanzar

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Originally posted by Gay-Guy+Mar 16 2005, 07:38 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gay-Guy @ Mar 16 2005, 07:38 AM)</div>
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@Mar 15 2005, 09:50 PM
Gay-Guy don't you think there should be more people interested in the multi-player than there are?
That is what you'd think.

Though a lot of TRF members live in rugby starved places so they would probably have to wait for online rugby regarding multiplayer. [/b]
I live in sydney and that is certainly not a rugby starved place, but unfortunately the people I socialise with are often not interested in video games.
 
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DAVIES

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In downtown Toronto, I have 2 friends who are mad for Rugby.

At least in Video Game form.

Neither one has the grapes to hit the pitch in three dimensions.
 
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ninjapirate

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or, everyone could give me a dollar! eh? eh? think of the benefits of that. i get $488, and you get to give me a dollar! appealing, huh?
 

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