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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 946020" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>It might be because he had a relatively weak record v Ireland but I never quite rate FdP up there with JVdW or Gregan, Dawson or Galthie too for that matter. Injuries and/or a shorter peak may contribute too.</p><p></p><p>I think what's revealing from this is the disparity between the quality of 9 in the North and South. Stringer being the only NH nine of the professional era shows two things 1. Facebook comments are dumb as ****, Stringer isn't even Munster's all time best 9 and 2. It's a far more important position than given credit for, arguably more vital than 10. </p><p></p><p>I can only comment from the late 90s onwards but in that time the 9s who at some point had a solid claim for best in the world are (one or two will likely slip my mind) Galthie, Gregan, Dawson, VdW, FdP, Yachvili, Parra, Smith and Murray - There's more NH representation there than I thought there would be but notably all the SH guys mentioned are WC winners while all the NH guys have that coveted All Black scalp, also it's the French's job to **** up trends in rugby. With the exception of Parra who has been stunted by his national set up all these guys have ticked off everything they can on the CV with the exception of a world cup win in a couple of cases. </p><p></p><p>Looking towards the RWC this year and the consensus is nobody outside of NZ, Ireland, Wales, England and SA have a chance, with the exception of maybe Argentina, who are perennial dark horses none of the other competent/not French countries have a 9 that holds a candle to Youngs and Davies who are the worst offerings of the five named.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 946020, member: 45598"] It might be because he had a relatively weak record v Ireland but I never quite rate FdP up there with JVdW or Gregan, Dawson or Galthie too for that matter. Injuries and/or a shorter peak may contribute too. I think what's revealing from this is the disparity between the quality of 9 in the North and South. Stringer being the only NH nine of the professional era shows two things 1. Facebook comments are dumb as ****, Stringer isn't even Munster's all time best 9 and 2. It's a far more important position than given credit for, arguably more vital than 10. I can only comment from the late 90s onwards but in that time the 9s who at some point had a solid claim for best in the world are (one or two will likely slip my mind) Galthie, Gregan, Dawson, VdW, FdP, Yachvili, Parra, Smith and Murray - There's more NH representation there than I thought there would be but notably all the SH guys mentioned are WC winners while all the NH guys have that coveted All Black scalp, also it's the French's job to **** up trends in rugby. With the exception of Parra who has been stunted by his national set up all these guys have ticked off everything they can on the CV with the exception of a world cup win in a couple of cases. Looking towards the RWC this year and the consensus is nobody outside of NZ, Ireland, Wales, England and SA have a chance, with the exception of maybe Argentina, who are perennial dark horses none of the other competent/not French countries have a 9 that holds a candle to Youngs and Davies who are the worst offerings of the five named. [/QUOTE]
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