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<blockquote data-quote="Nickdnz" data-source="post: 284676"><p>To be fair, I believe the smaller provinces have shown more intrest in their local team due to the idea it may be a last chance to see them play, as well as to influence the NZRU to keep them in the competition. Down the track, say 4-5 years time, do you really believe that auidences will be sustained?</p><p></p><p>I don't see why there is a negative attitude towards the larger provinces, and only Cantebury out of the five main teams are in any serious financial dept. Also, auidence attendance is only a smll part of financial gain for the NZRU, and this fact is very much forgotten. Provincial teams are financed by both NZRU and also sponsors, who will only remain sponcering providing there is a good television auidence, crowd attendance has all ways really been the iceing on the cake.</p><p>Also, I don't see why people are now complaining about the Tri Nations as well. What do people want, no international competitions now? And I don't see how adding Argentina to the fixture is a reasons to complain. People claim "The current format is boring" and then when Argentina is added and instead of three matches verse each team, it changes to two, which ultimatly solves the whole "boring" aspect of the same three teams competing against each other constantly, and yet NZ fans just seem to find any reason to complain.</p><p>I agree that changes have to be made to our domestic competition. I don't mind it taking over from the Super 14/15, providing that, like the Heinekin Cup, our best domestic teams, compete against domestic teams of other countries, in order to test our level playing against other countries. No matter what people say, the Super 14 is still a much higher level of playing then the Air New Zealand Cup, and unless the NPC can turn into a fully professional competition, with a way of comparision between our provincial teams, and that of say, SA or Aus and even Japan and Argentina, then the Super 14/15 will have to remain. The fact that the NPC offers more entertaining rugby becomes irrelavent when players from the NPC begin to loose at international level because of a lack of professional rugby experience. This is the professional era, and while it is a romantic idea to keep smaller provinces, and make the NPC the leading competition in order to make the NPC a better competition, we would - </p><p>a). Need to get rid of the ANZC structure and base it like the ones in Europe</p><p>b ). Make all provinces pay players at a decent salery, so not to loose the best players to over seas, which again would mean small provinces would struggle to keep their talent.</p><p>d). Find a huge source of sponsors, much more the in the Super 14, and there are far more players needing to be payed more highly. The only way this can really work as John Kirwan has said, is that we allow players from NZ to compete in the same competition as the Japanese leagues, and would therefore loose much of our talent.</p><p>I mean there may be a few things I have over looked and not considered, but it would be very difficult for the NZRU to abandon the Super 14/15 (not to mention loose the sponsors for the competition) as well as set up a new NPC structure that will not only keep NZ's main talent in NZ, but keep NZ's international performance at a high standard (And the argument that we were playing at a high standard prior to Super 14/15 is rubbish, as the sport had only just become professional).</p><p>I don't mean to be very negative, and I am betting I will be perceived by some as a twat, however I am trying to be realistic, and one good season can't really be good enough reason for the past decade of neglect towards many smaller provinces. I am not even trying to say we shouldn't get rid of the Super 14/15, however moving back to the old NPC structure is a bad idea in itself, as I have mentioned due to no test at provincial/club level against other international standards. I believe the only way a decent competition, that would benafit both players, provinces and fans, is an entirley new format which would revolve around provincial rugby, however a side competition (like the Heineken Cup) would have to be set up so we could compete against other provincial teams/clubs from other countries. This would ensure that a high standard of rugby was still being played at a high level of competition, while allowing the provincial unions to remain in the highest standard of rugby. The point must be stressed that in order for this format to be put into place, a large amount of sponsorship would be required in order to pay players high enough wages so that they remain in NZ, which the NPC alone, currently dosn't offer.</p><p>That is my 5c, if you read it all well done, and thank you for the time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nickdnz, post: 284676"] To be fair, I believe the smaller provinces have shown more intrest in their local team due to the idea it may be a last chance to see them play, as well as to influence the NZRU to keep them in the competition. Down the track, say 4-5 years time, do you really believe that auidences will be sustained? I don't see why there is a negative attitude towards the larger provinces, and only Cantebury out of the five main teams are in any serious financial dept. Also, auidence attendance is only a smll part of financial gain for the NZRU, and this fact is very much forgotten. Provincial teams are financed by both NZRU and also sponsors, who will only remain sponcering providing there is a good television auidence, crowd attendance has all ways really been the iceing on the cake. Also, I don't see why people are now complaining about the Tri Nations as well. What do people want, no international competitions now? And I don't see how adding Argentina to the fixture is a reasons to complain. People claim "The current format is boring" and then when Argentina is added and instead of three matches verse each team, it changes to two, which ultimatly solves the whole "boring" aspect of the same three teams competing against each other constantly, and yet NZ fans just seem to find any reason to complain. I agree that changes have to be made to our domestic competition. I don't mind it taking over from the Super 14/15, providing that, like the Heinekin Cup, our best domestic teams, compete against domestic teams of other countries, in order to test our level playing against other countries. No matter what people say, the Super 14 is still a much higher level of playing then the Air New Zealand Cup, and unless the NPC can turn into a fully professional competition, with a way of comparision between our provincial teams, and that of say, SA or Aus and even Japan and Argentina, then the Super 14/15 will have to remain. The fact that the NPC offers more entertaining rugby becomes irrelavent when players from the NPC begin to loose at international level because of a lack of professional rugby experience. This is the professional era, and while it is a romantic idea to keep smaller provinces, and make the NPC the leading competition in order to make the NPC a better competition, we would - a). Need to get rid of the ANZC structure and base it like the ones in Europe b ). Make all provinces pay players at a decent salery, so not to loose the best players to over seas, which again would mean small provinces would struggle to keep their talent. d). Find a huge source of sponsors, much more the in the Super 14, and there are far more players needing to be payed more highly. The only way this can really work as John Kirwan has said, is that we allow players from NZ to compete in the same competition as the Japanese leagues, and would therefore loose much of our talent. I mean there may be a few things I have over looked and not considered, but it would be very difficult for the NZRU to abandon the Super 14/15 (not to mention loose the sponsors for the competition) as well as set up a new NPC structure that will not only keep NZ's main talent in NZ, but keep NZ's international performance at a high standard (And the argument that we were playing at a high standard prior to Super 14/15 is rubbish, as the sport had only just become professional). I don't mean to be very negative, and I am betting I will be perceived by some as a twat, however I am trying to be realistic, and one good season can't really be good enough reason for the past decade of neglect towards many smaller provinces. I am not even trying to say we shouldn't get rid of the Super 14/15, however moving back to the old NPC structure is a bad idea in itself, as I have mentioned due to no test at provincial/club level against other international standards. I believe the only way a decent competition, that would benafit both players, provinces and fans, is an entirley new format which would revolve around provincial rugby, however a side competition (like the Heineken Cup) would have to be set up so we could compete against other provincial teams/clubs from other countries. This would ensure that a high standard of rugby was still being played at a high level of competition, while allowing the provincial unions to remain in the highest standard of rugby. The point must be stressed that in order for this format to be put into place, a large amount of sponsorship would be required in order to pay players high enough wages so that they remain in NZ, which the NPC alone, currently dosn't offer. That is my 5c, if you read it all well done, and thank you for the time. [/QUOTE]
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