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<blockquote data-quote="unrated" data-source="post: 995047" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p>No, they really did not. I mean they told us there would be a lockdown three days in advance but not many people thought that they would ban alcohol and tobacco. You should see the smokers they are going crazy. The black market has shot up immensely.</p><p>You could find alcohol on the black market about a week after the ban but the police and Army cracked down heavily on illegal trade. Some bottle stores were looted etc. Now, basically no one can get alcohol. They made it illegal to brew it yourself.</p><p>This article show how they even went to houses and destoryed home brews, then they thought while they were at it they would also throw away the food these people were making. its horrifying as these people dont have much food, many go to bed hungry because they are not getting money since the economy is shut down. Do yourself a favour and go check the images in this link below.</p><p><a href="https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/is-homemade-beer-banned-illegal-during-lockdown/" target="_blank">https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/is-homemade-beer-banned-illegal-during-lockdown/</a></p><p></p><p>Also, the transport of alcohol is illegal so the breweries can't even transport their produce to cold storage facilities, now millions of litres of beer are going stale.</p><p></p><p>People still find cigarettes on the black market, generally at the corner stores run by Pakistani men and woman. But the idea from the government was to only allow essential goods, and they said alcohol will make people beat each other in confinement and cigarettes is not good for coronavirus. People became more ****** about this then they did about the actual lockdown. In fact people widely supported the lockdown and commended the government, but their draconian measures really turned opinion very rapidly. look at the American alcohol ban years ago, it just went underground.</p><p></p><p>If you are interested in reading more here is a few links to give more context</p><p></p><p><a href="https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/395370/south-african-breweries-calls-for-the-sale-of-beer-and-other-alcohol-under-these-conditions/" target="_blank">https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/395370/south-african-breweries-calls-for-the-sale-of-beer-and-other-alcohol-under-these-conditions/</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Police Minister gone rogue (The guy said he wants to ban alcohol and tobbaco even after the lockdown) </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52358268" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52358268</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Here is the minister spewing **** at the media.</strong></p><p><a href="https://city-press.news24.com/News/bheki-cele-i-wish-alcohol-ban-could-be-extended-beyond-lockdown-20200405" target="_blank">https://city-press.news24.com/News/bheki-cele-i-wish-alcohol-ban-could-be-extended-beyond-lockdown-20200405</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Here is a article that says its good that alcohol is banned as it hampers the fight against the virus because it compromises the immune system</strong></p><p><a href="https://ewn.co.za/2020/05/06/fact-check-can-alcohol-ban-help-south-africans-fight-covid-19-infection" target="_blank">https://ewn.co.za/2020/05/06/fact-check-can-alcohol-ban-help-south-africans-fight-covid-19-infection</a></p><p></p><p><strong>Police arresting South Africans en masse because of disobeying their rules</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Retail/heres-how-south-africans-are-dodging-virus-alcohol-ban-20200427" target="_blank">https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Retail/heres-how-south-africans-are-dodging-virus-alcohol-ban-20200427</a></p><p></p><p><strong>400 Million bottles of beer down the drain</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.enca.com/news/sa-lockdown-sab-may-need-dump-400-million-bottles-beer" target="_blank">https://www.enca.com/news/sa-lockdown-sab-may-need-dump-400-million-bottles-beer</a></p><p></p><p><strong>The president announced after 5 weeks that they would be allowed to sell tobbaco again, everybody got happy and then two days later they said nah not gonna happen anymore</strong></p><p><a href="https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/breaking-government-refuses-to-show-minutes-of-cigarette-ban-u-turn-says-its-classified-20200507" target="_blank">https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/breaking-government-refuses-to-show-minutes-of-cigarette-ban-u-turn-says-its-classified-20200507</a></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>British American Tobacco was going to sue the governent but they dropped the case (Reports like the one above suggest the revenue office raided their offices and this sparked a sudden decision to drop the case. FISHY!) </strong></p><p><a href="https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/395621/tobacco-giant-drops-plan-to-sue-government-over-south-africas-cigarette-ban/" target="_blank">https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/395621/tobacco-giant-drops-plan-to-sue-government-over-south-africas-cigarette-ban/</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://m.fin24.com/Economy/South-Africa/if-cigarette-sales-spread-coronavirus-prove-it-tobacco-association-20200504" target="_blank">https://m.fin24.com/Economy/South-Africa/if-cigarette-sales-spread-coronavirus-prove-it-tobacco-association-20200504</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Lockdown undermined by ban</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/ban-on-cigarettes-undermines-lockdown-47020030" target="_blank">https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/ban-on-cigarettes-undermines-lockdown-47020030</a></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Change. org petition</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.change.org/p/president-cyril-ramaphosa-lift-the-ban-on-cigarette-sales-in-south-africa?recruiter=550506206&recruited_by_id=3adc1040-27c5-11e6-a4d9-c5239378db75" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/president-cyril-ramaphosa-lift-the-ban-on-cigarette-sales-in-south-africa?recruiter=550506206&recruited_by_id=3adc1040-27c5-11e6-a4d9-c5239378db75</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>About the tobacco ban i just laugh because i dont smoke. Its funny to see family and friends complain. But the alcohol ban affected me directly, it became personal, but also a great learning experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="unrated, post: 995047, member: 45773"] No, they really did not. I mean they told us there would be a lockdown three days in advance but not many people thought that they would ban alcohol and tobacco. You should see the smokers they are going crazy. The black market has shot up immensely. You could find alcohol on the black market about a week after the ban but the police and Army cracked down heavily on illegal trade. Some bottle stores were looted etc. Now, basically no one can get alcohol. They made it illegal to brew it yourself. This article show how they even went to houses and destoryed home brews, then they thought while they were at it they would also throw away the food these people were making. its horrifying as these people dont have much food, many go to bed hungry because they are not getting money since the economy is shut down. Do yourself a favour and go check the images in this link below. [URL]https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/is-homemade-beer-banned-illegal-during-lockdown/[/URL] Also, the transport of alcohol is illegal so the breweries can't even transport their produce to cold storage facilities, now millions of litres of beer are going stale. People still find cigarettes on the black market, generally at the corner stores run by Pakistani men and woman. But the idea from the government was to only allow essential goods, and they said alcohol will make people beat each other in confinement and cigarettes is not good for coronavirus. People became more ****** about this then they did about the actual lockdown. In fact people widely supported the lockdown and commended the government, but their draconian measures really turned opinion very rapidly. look at the American alcohol ban years ago, it just went underground. If you are interested in reading more here is a few links to give more context [URL]https://businesstech.co.za/news/trending/395370/south-african-breweries-calls-for-the-sale-of-beer-and-other-alcohol-under-these-conditions/[/URL] [B]Police Minister gone rogue (The guy said he wants to ban alcohol and tobbaco even after the lockdown) [/B] [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52358268[/URL] [B]Here is the minister spewing **** at the media.[/B] [URL]https://city-press.news24.com/News/bheki-cele-i-wish-alcohol-ban-could-be-extended-beyond-lockdown-20200405[/URL] [B]Here is a article that says its good that alcohol is banned as it hampers the fight against the virus because it compromises the immune system[/B] [URL]https://ewn.co.za/2020/05/06/fact-check-can-alcohol-ban-help-south-africans-fight-covid-19-infection[/URL] [B]Police arresting South Africans en masse because of disobeying their rules[/B] [URL]https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Retail/heres-how-south-africans-are-dodging-virus-alcohol-ban-20200427[/URL] [B]400 Million bottles of beer down the drain[/B] [URL]https://www.enca.com/news/sa-lockdown-sab-may-need-dump-400-million-bottles-beer[/URL] [B]The president announced after 5 weeks that they would be allowed to sell tobbaco again, everybody got happy and then two days later they said nah not gonna happen anymore[/B] [URL]https://m.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/breaking-government-refuses-to-show-minutes-of-cigarette-ban-u-turn-says-its-classified-20200507[/URL] [B]British American Tobacco was going to sue the governent but they dropped the case (Reports like the one above suggest the revenue office raided their offices and this sparked a sudden decision to drop the case. FISHY!) [/B] [URL]https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/395621/tobacco-giant-drops-plan-to-sue-government-over-south-africas-cigarette-ban/[/URL] [URL]https://m.fin24.com/Economy/South-Africa/if-cigarette-sales-spread-coronavirus-prove-it-tobacco-association-20200504[/URL] [B]Lockdown undermined by ban[/B] [URL]https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/ban-on-cigarettes-undermines-lockdown-47020030[/URL] [B]Change. org petition[/B] [URL]https://www.change.org/p/president-cyril-ramaphosa-lift-the-ban-on-cigarette-sales-in-south-africa?recruiter=550506206&recruited_by_id=3adc1040-27c5-11e6-a4d9-c5239378db75[/URL] About the tobacco ban i just laugh because i dont smoke. Its funny to see family and friends complain. But the alcohol ban affected me directly, it became personal, but also a great learning experience. [/QUOTE]
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