Discussion in 'General Rugby Union' started by woosaah, Feb 20, 2006.

  1. woosaah

    woosaah Guest

    Somewhere on

    Wow this will be different, mauls to the ground could be dangerous, hands in the ruck will be challenging for both teams

    this could be a major change for the IRB and rugby in genral

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  3. kaftka

    kaftka Guest

    That's quite major, and I don't know what to think of them...

    Allowing to bring mauls to the ground just doesn't sound right. It is dangerous, and that shouldn't be allowed imo...

    Not having to match up numbers in the lineout? What's the point in that?

    Honestly quite like the sound of the penalty one though...

    This is pretty big.
  4. Yeah the mauls thing is pretty dangerous. I don't understand the penalty thing though, does that mean people would no longer be allowed to go for goal or kick for touch?
  5. woosaah

    woosaah Guest

    yeah so the only time a penalty will come in is when someone brings down a scrum, or is off side, or strikes another player. this will decrease the penalty count. hands in the ruck, this will make it harder to keep control of the ball and may make alot of ball unplayable.

    its going to be interesting for sure, but these changes (if they happen) wont happen til after the world cup.

    it will make for a faster game thats for sure
  6. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    ^^^^^^This is the only rule change i like.

    They should also consider lowering the the amount of points for drop goals and penalty kicks
  7. kaftka

    kaftka Guest

    Lower the amount for drop goals sure, but keep the three points for penalties. If you lower the points for penalties, then I think we'll see more of them down in the 22 to reduce the amount of tries conceeded.
  8. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    I was thinking more like 1 point for drop goals 2 points for a penalty and 1 for a conversion

    Look at the Brumbies v Bulls game the other night..........the Bulls didn't score a try and were terrible in attack but they found them self in front with 2 minutes to go thanks to numerus (questionable) penalties kicked from the half way line.

    The Brumbies were by far the better team but only just won, even though they scored 3 tries to 0.

    Teams like SA and England who hardly score any tries, win alot of games because they play for penalties and have great goal kickers.

    I think anything to encourage more tries is only going to improve rugby and ensure it continues to grow in popularity for years to come.
  9. How dare they even think of changing the law regarding scrums. I love the tussle that goes on in the scrum. :%#%#: :rahh: :ranting: :angry: :redcard: :wall:
  10. Gay-Guy

    Gay-Guy Guest

    Looks like they may need to really rethink the consequences of every rule change.

    Having tap kicks instead of penalties at the breakdown will make teams infringe all the more as a tactic to slow the ball down in front of the post. Players on the defending team will just lie there forever until all their players are back in position on the line to tackle. the worse they will get for it is a free kick, but they won't care, as long as all their players are back.
  11. I still don't understand what they mean by that rule. WOuld anyone care to explain?
  12. woosaah

    woosaah Guest

    yeah its shocking

    maybe if they keep slowing the ball down/lying over the ball maybe that is consitutes as a fould

    if that happens no1 will get clean ball, that rule will be interesting
  13. mark_shaw

    mark_shaw Guest

    dont f*** with the rules of rugby like they have with cricket..rugbys good as it is! dont change it all just so idiots hu dont wtch rugby wont find it hard 2 understand..f***ing irb f***s f***
  14. bad idea. these penalties are often delibrate for only conceding 3pts, instead of 7. also means ball will be dissrupted alot, and make it messier and slower.

    i think this is quite similar to what it is now. any chance of some examples?

    again, thats pritty much what they do now.

    good idea. speed game up, makes deffence stronger, or attack stronger.

    bad idea. removes one of the best part of foward play.

    again, what does this mean?

    proberly for the best. makes things safer.
  15. Wally

    Wally Guest

    Infringements - these occur more than anything else.

    @Feb 20 2006, 05:04 PM
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    again, what does this mean?[/b][/quote]
    I'm not totally sure, but maybe it means bringing in an interchange like in rugby league. I think this could be a good a idea.
  16. -JJ-

    -JJ- Guest

    Allow hands in the ruck. I assume this will mean you still must be standing? I dunno. Seems stupid. But could work.

    Bringing mauls to the ground is veeery stupid. For reasons already pointed out above.

    Interchange could be an ok idea. Would stop the ridiculous abuse of the blood bin system. I heard Nucifora I think it was saying "We had to find some blood on Devine"... i.e. Bring on the fake blood pellet things... Retain the rule of "If you can't stop bleeding within 15 minutes of real time, you're not coming back."
  17. again, what does this mean?[/b][/quote]
    I'm not totally sure, but maybe it means bringing in an interchange like in rugby league. I think this could be a good a idea. [/b][/quote]
    no its not. league players use the micro system, ie. fast for short periods of time. rugby is macro(?) so they only need to be taken off later on in the game. union players dont need to be rested for 10-20min breaks like league players.

    i think, if this is what we think it is, is like what jj said, to stop abusing the blood bin system. not really a valid reason imo.
  18. I think the IRB are panicking having been attacked by a journalist somewhere.

    The current rules need tightening, not changing completely. Suggestions such as being able to pull don't mauls are ridiculous.
  19. Mr. Laxative

    Mr. Laxative Guest

    again, what does this mean? [/b][/quote]
    same as league 12 subs - only seven on the bench but 12 interchanges can be made.
  20. BOKean

    BOKean Guest

    these rules sound a bit whak if you ask me

    the hands in the ruck will slow the game down if anything.
    the penalties thing will also slow the game down alot - most of my friends who dont like rugby mention that there are too many scrums which slow the game down. if they are changing the rules to increase fans then they are going about it the wrong way! they will probably do the opposite
  21. QKXV

    QKXV Guest

    These do sound like complete toss. While they're at it why don't they just allow forward passing and high tackling as well? Rugby union has certain rules for a specific reason, without it the game itself cannot exist as rugby union, it becomes something else - american football, rugby league, touch rugby and whathaveyouselse
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