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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 763959" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>I know I have a very unpopular opinion here and I won't get what I want but the whole tour has no function or benefit for the professional rugby players and teams in Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales, if anything it has a negative effect.</p><p></p><p>It's very easy to, as you have done, paint a romantic picture that the Lions is sugar and spice and all things nice but the reality is that it's not. The touring nations either don't respect the Lions, NZ and SA before '97, or don't care, Australia. It's more rugby that our already over worked players have to play and results in the likes of Jonathan Davies and Johnny Sexton, guys who haven't had a non-injury related break of any significant amount of time since August 2012, missing their chance to create history with their nation at a world cup, an event and teams that people genuinely care about. And great players aren't remembered by their Lions' achievements any more, BOD and POC for example will always be remembered for their grand slam, 6 nations, Heineken cup and Pro 12 wins over captaining Lions tours and winning one. BOD's remembered as a Lion because he got dropped on his shoulder. </p><p></p><p>A selfish system is exactly what I want to be part of, the All Blacks and South Africa are as selfish as they come, they're also the best. Could you ever picture NZ and SA getting chummy and sharing moves and secrets to their game to win a test series that won't help their nation in any way?</p><p></p><p>Never did I imply that players are commodities, my main point is that the Lions tour plays a negative effect on their career. Cian Healy's injury in 2013 may have been a blessing in disguise, a big one was due with the amount of rugby he plays and he missed out on a Lions tour rather than two 6 nations victories, a far more impressive achievement than beating a poor Australian side with the help of three other countries.</p><p></p><p>Your last point encapsulates my point. Why should we rely on teaming up every four years not to be an underdog? The goal should be always being the favourite as one nation, all the Lions does is add to our defeatist mentality. If The Lions has a place in the game at all that won't hinder NH rugby, it is as a Barbarian like side playing random exhibitions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 763959, member: 45598"] I know I have a very unpopular opinion here and I won't get what I want but the whole tour has no function or benefit for the professional rugby players and teams in Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales, if anything it has a negative effect. It's very easy to, as you have done, paint a romantic picture that the Lions is sugar and spice and all things nice but the reality is that it's not. The touring nations either don't respect the Lions, NZ and SA before '97, or don't care, Australia. It's more rugby that our already over worked players have to play and results in the likes of Jonathan Davies and Johnny Sexton, guys who haven't had a non-injury related break of any significant amount of time since August 2012, missing their chance to create history with their nation at a world cup, an event and teams that people genuinely care about. And great players aren't remembered by their Lions' achievements any more, BOD and POC for example will always be remembered for their grand slam, 6 nations, Heineken cup and Pro 12 wins over captaining Lions tours and winning one. BOD's remembered as a Lion because he got dropped on his shoulder. A selfish system is exactly what I want to be part of, the All Blacks and South Africa are as selfish as they come, they're also the best. Could you ever picture NZ and SA getting chummy and sharing moves and secrets to their game to win a test series that won't help their nation in any way? Never did I imply that players are commodities, my main point is that the Lions tour plays a negative effect on their career. Cian Healy's injury in 2013 may have been a blessing in disguise, a big one was due with the amount of rugby he plays and he missed out on a Lions tour rather than two 6 nations victories, a far more impressive achievement than beating a poor Australian side with the help of three other countries. Your last point encapsulates my point. Why should we rely on teaming up every four years not to be an underdog? The goal should be always being the favourite as one nation, all the Lions does is add to our defeatist mentality. If The Lions has a place in the game at all that won't hinder NH rugby, it is as a Barbarian like side playing random exhibitions. [/QUOTE]
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