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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 866934" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>And in February 2016 was 8 games into the world record winning streak which began with the 2015 RWC, so ncurd's cynical mode doesn't apply at all.</p><p></p><p>I think you will find the they are not looking so much at reducing the number of Laws as trying to make them easier to comprehend and making them a lot less wordy</p><p></p><p>For Example, this is what it takes in the current Lawbook to describe the formation of a line-out</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">19.8 FORMING A LINEOUT</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(a) Minimum. At least two players from each team must form a lineout.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(b) Maximum. The team throwing in the ball decides the maximum number of players in the</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">lineout.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(c) The opposing team may have fewer lineout players but they must not have more.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(d) When the ball is in touch , every player who approaches the line of touch is presumed to do so to form a lineout. Players who approach the line of touch must do so without delay. Players of either team must not leave the lineout once they have taken up a position in the lineout until the lineout has ended.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(e) If the team throwing in the ball put fewer than the usual number of players in the lineout, their opponents must be given a reasonable time to move enough players out of the lineout to satisfy this Law.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(f) These players must leave the lineout without delay. They must move to the offside line , 10 metres behind the line of touch. If the lineout ends before they reach this line , they may rejoin play.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(g) Failure to form a lineout. A team must not voluntarily fail to form a lineout.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(h) Where the lineout players must stand. The front of the lineout is not less than 5 metres from the touchline. The back of the lineout is not more than 15 metres from the touchline. All lineout players must stand between these two points.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(i) Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver , then that player , must be positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout , and between the 5m and 15m lines , until the lineout begins. Once the lineout has commenced , the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free kick on the 15 metre line along the line of touch</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(j) Player between touch and 5 metres. The team not throwing in must have a player standing between the touchline and the 5-metre line on that team's side of the line of touch when the lineout is formed. That player must stand 2 metres from the line of touch and 2 metres from the 5-metre line.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(k) Participating players in a lineout may change places before the ball is thrown.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(l) Two single straight lines. The lineout players of both teams form two single parallel lines</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">each at right angles to the touchline.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(m) Opposing players forming a lineout must keep a clear space between their inside shoulders. This space is determined when players are in an upright stance. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(n) Metre gap. Each line of players must be half a metre on their side of the line of touch. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(o) The line of touch must not be within 5 metres of the goal line.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(p) After the lineout has formed , but before the ball has been thrown in , a player must not hold push , charge into , or obstruct an opponent.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, here is my version</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">19.8 FORMING A LINEOUT</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(a) Number of players. A line out requires at least two players from each team, with the maximum being set by the team throwing in. The opposing team may have fewer lineout players.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(b) When the ball is in touch , every player who approaches the line of touch is presumed to do so to form a lineout, and they must do so without delay. A team must not voluntarily fail to form a lineout. Once they have taken up a position in the lineout, they must not leave until it has ended unless required to do so by Law. In that case, the referee must allow a reasonable time for compliance, those players must leave the lineout without delay, and retire to the 10m offside line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(c) Where the lineout players must stand. The lineout players must form two single parallel lines, each at right angles to the touchline, between the 5m and 15m line. Each line must be at least half a metre on their own side of the line of touch, and the player must maintain that gap until the ball touches a player or the ground. Participating players in a lineout may change places before the ball is thrown. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(d) The receiver. If a team uses a receiver , that player must be positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout , and between the 5m and 15m lines , until the lineout begins. Once the lineout has commenced , the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free kick on the 15 metre line along the line of touch</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(e) Player between touch and 5 metres. The team not throwing in must have a player standing between the touchline and the 5-metre line on that team's side of the line of touch when the lineout is formed. That player must stand 2 metres from the line of touch and 2 metres from the 5-metre line.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line</span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"><span style="color: #0080ff">(f) After the lineout has formed , but before the ball has been thrown in , a player must not hold push , charge into , or obstruct an opponent.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"><span style="color: #0080ff">Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"><span style="color: #000000">I would either put the following into the General definitions at the front of the book, or in the Law 19 Touch definitions </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(o) The line of touch must not be within 5 metres of the goal line.</span></p><p></p><p>My version says everything that the current version says in about half the number of words, and more clearly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 866934, member: 20605"] And in February 2016 was 8 games into the world record winning streak which began with the 2015 RWC, so ncurd's cynical mode doesn't apply at all. I think you will find the they are not looking so much at reducing the number of Laws as trying to make them easier to comprehend and making them a lot less wordy For Example, this is what it takes in the current Lawbook to describe the formation of a line-out [COLOR=#0080ff]19.8 FORMING A LINEOUT (a) Minimum. At least two players from each team must form a lineout. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (b) Maximum. The team throwing in the ball decides the maximum number of players in the lineout. (c) The opposing team may have fewer lineout players but they must not have more. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (d) When the ball is in touch , every player who approaches the line of touch is presumed to do so to form a lineout. Players who approach the line of touch must do so without delay. Players of either team must not leave the lineout once they have taken up a position in the lineout until the lineout has ended. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (e) If the team throwing in the ball put fewer than the usual number of players in the lineout, their opponents must be given a reasonable time to move enough players out of the lineout to satisfy this Law. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (f) These players must leave the lineout without delay. They must move to the offside line , 10 metres behind the line of touch. If the lineout ends before they reach this line , they may rejoin play. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (g) Failure to form a lineout. A team must not voluntarily fail to form a lineout. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (h) Where the lineout players must stand. The front of the lineout is not less than 5 metres from the touchline. The back of the lineout is not more than 15 metres from the touchline. All lineout players must stand between these two points. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (i) Where the receiver must stand. If a team uses a receiver , then that player , must be positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout , and between the 5m and 15m lines , until the lineout begins. Once the lineout has commenced , the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions. Sanction: Free kick on the 15 metre line along the line of touch (j) Player between touch and 5 metres. The team not throwing in must have a player standing between the touchline and the 5-metre line on that team’s side of the line of touch when the lineout is formed. That player must stand 2 metres from the line of touch and 2 metres from the 5-metre line. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (k) Participating players in a lineout may change places before the ball is thrown. (l) Two single straight lines. The lineout players of both teams form two single parallel lines each at right angles to the touchline. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (m) Opposing players forming a lineout must keep a clear space between their inside shoulders. This space is determined when players are in an upright stance. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (n) Metre gap. Each line of players must be half a metre on their side of the line of touch. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (o) The line of touch must not be within 5 metres of the goal line. (p) After the lineout has formed , but before the ball has been thrown in , a player must not hold push , charge into , or obstruct an opponent. Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line.[/COLOR] Now, here is my version [COLOR=#0080ff]19.8 FORMING A LINEOUT (a) Number of players. A line out requires at least two players from each team, with the maximum being set by the team throwing in. The opposing team may have fewer lineout players. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (b) When the ball is in touch , every player who approaches the line of touch is presumed to do so to form a lineout, and they must do so without delay. A team must not voluntarily fail to form a lineout. Once they have taken up a position in the lineout, they must not leave until it has ended unless required to do so by Law. In that case, the referee must allow a reasonable time for compliance, those players must leave the lineout without delay, and retire to the 10m offside line Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (c) Where the lineout players must stand. The lineout players must form two single parallel lines, each at right angles to the touchline, between the 5m and 15m line. Each line must be at least half a metre on their own side of the line of touch, and the player must maintain that gap until the ball touches a player or the ground. Participating players in a lineout may change places before the ball is thrown. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line (d) The receiver. If a team uses a receiver , that player must be positioned at least 2m back from team mates in the lineout , and between the 5m and 15m lines , until the lineout begins. Once the lineout has commenced , the receiver may move into the lineout and may perform all actions available to players in the lineout and is liable to related sanctions. Sanction: Free kick on the 15 metre line along the line of touch (e) Player between touch and 5 metres. The team not throwing in must have a player standing between the touchline and the 5-metre line on that team’s side of the line of touch when the lineout is formed. That player must stand 2 metres from the line of touch and 2 metres from the 5-metre line. Sanction: Free Kick on the 15-metre line [COLOR=#0080ff](f) After the lineout has formed , but before the ball has been thrown in , a player must not hold push , charge into , or obstruct an opponent. Sanction: Penalty kick on the 15-metre line.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]I would either put the following into the General definitions at the front of the book, or in the Law 19 Touch definitions [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0080ff] (o) The line of touch must not be within 5 metres of the goal line.[/COLOR] My version says everything that the current version says in about half the number of words, and more clearly. [/QUOTE]
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