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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 789499" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>I agree with this. </p><p></p><p>I was lucky with this issue as a kid, i guess. </p><p>Quick question thou: could someone define bullying to me please, because the idea of bullying without physical force of the thread of physical force sounds alien to me. </p><p></p><p>Arguably the most sad things about kids being bullied when i was a kid was, precisely, that they could not walk away. The bully was going to be at school next day, and so was he, the bully would walk over and punch/push him, and the bullied one either did not want or could not respond in kind. But the key thing, for me, was that he could not walk away. That was what looked so desperate about the situation (we had older kid at my HS who woke up 30 minutes earlier to take the bus just to avoid some people. He'd seem them later anyway, but in his mind, sacrificing 30 minutes every day was worth it if that meant he didn't have to share a bus with them. That's how bad this guy had had it). I had, and till have, a very low tolerance to bullies precisely because i saw what it did to this guy. </p><p></p><p>For the record, i am not claiming cyber/online bullying is not bullying, i just do not understand the process. What people describe as bullying nowadays seems to me as having to listen to kids mocking or being nasty to one another, when the bullied one has all the tools to answer back without getting into a fight, or, in many cases, walk away. Same at work. I was called in once to give testimony about a guy because someone complained about him being a bully. He was just upfront, no bull**** and had a deep and somewhat loud. Someone people saw him as a bully. I disagreed with him in 99% of work related matters but the idea of him being a bully, at work, had never, ever, crossed my mind. I can understand bullying at the workplace if instead of physical force you use the power/authority of your position. But we were talking about peers (same job grade), so to me the entire thing sounded ridiculous. </p><p></p><p>In my experience, the bullied ones knew what they wanted to say, they just couldn't walk away and couldn't answer back either. That doesn't seem to be the case here. </p><p></p><p>I know kids and "weak" people should be protected and how important that is, but sometimes i can't help wondering if we are not pampering kids too much. Sometimes i walk past a playground and see all sitting down playing with their iphones, sitting down impeccably dressed, and i cant help to remember getting back from school breaks, dirt to the nails, sweating like there is no tomorrow and rushing to the toilet just to wash my face before going back to class. Sometimes i wonder how <em>soft </em>the new generation is going to be. </p><p>Guess things change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 789499, member: 55747"] I agree with this. I was lucky with this issue as a kid, i guess. Quick question thou: could someone define bullying to me please, because the idea of bullying without physical force of the thread of physical force sounds alien to me. Arguably the most sad things about kids being bullied when i was a kid was, precisely, that they could not walk away. The bully was going to be at school next day, and so was he, the bully would walk over and punch/push him, and the bullied one either did not want or could not respond in kind. But the key thing, for me, was that he could not walk away. That was what looked so desperate about the situation (we had older kid at my HS who woke up 30 minutes earlier to take the bus just to avoid some people. He'd seem them later anyway, but in his mind, sacrificing 30 minutes every day was worth it if that meant he didn't have to share a bus with them. That's how bad this guy had had it). I had, and till have, a very low tolerance to bullies precisely because i saw what it did to this guy. For the record, i am not claiming cyber/online bullying is not bullying, i just do not understand the process. What people describe as bullying nowadays seems to me as having to listen to kids mocking or being nasty to one another, when the bullied one has all the tools to answer back without getting into a fight, or, in many cases, walk away. Same at work. I was called in once to give testimony about a guy because someone complained about him being a bully. He was just upfront, no bull**** and had a deep and somewhat loud. Someone people saw him as a bully. I disagreed with him in 99% of work related matters but the idea of him being a bully, at work, had never, ever, crossed my mind. I can understand bullying at the workplace if instead of physical force you use the power/authority of your position. But we were talking about peers (same job grade), so to me the entire thing sounded ridiculous. In my experience, the bullied ones knew what they wanted to say, they just couldn't walk away and couldn't answer back either. That doesn't seem to be the case here. I know kids and "weak" people should be protected and how important that is, but sometimes i can't help wondering if we are not pampering kids too much. Sometimes i walk past a playground and see all sitting down playing with their iphones, sitting down impeccably dressed, and i cant help to remember getting back from school breaks, dirt to the nails, sweating like there is no tomorrow and rushing to the toilet just to wash my face before going back to class. Sometimes i wonder how [I]soft [/I]the new generation is going to be. Guess things change. [/QUOTE]
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