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<blockquote data-quote="toup" data-source="post: 262248"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ May 12 2009, 01:00 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=395611" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Okay lads, you've played for 100minutes of rugby, you're battered, bruised, injured and have run out of subs - There's no way you can physically run around any more. Tell you what, 25 yards out, centre of the posts, you all get one kick each - Pick your best first, it'll be best of 5. After that if all is STILL even, it's sudden death."</p><p></p><p>What's not even?</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Teams who have more than a couple of trained goalkickers, teams who have lost goalkickers to injury, teams who are fortunate enough to have a number 8 who played fly half at youth level and can kick... there are just so many elements to a game of rugby and I feel that putting it down to one skill which is not an essential for all players is both pointless and unfair. It becomes little more than a game of chance but with an unfair disasdvantage on players who have not kicked regularly.</p><p></p><p>Your point about not playing further is one I completely agree with, but if we are going to turn the thing into effectively a lottery, why not a simple coin toss? I've had a tournament settled like this before (after all the tries scored totals etc) and although we lost, there was something dignified about it - no feeling that any one player had let us down or that we were in any way inferior. Now granted this is somewhat arbitrary, particularly with sums of money involved, but I think it's just as valid in terms of the whole thing being reduced to chance - whether a number 8, kicking further down the list, gets a kick or not is not based on a skill which he has had a chance to practice.</p><p></p><p>I think the somewhat muted response of the Leicester players shows how they felt - a win like this is lacking in satisfaction for the winners, and is far from dignified for the losers.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="toup, post: 262248"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ May 12 2009, 01:00 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=395611']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> "Okay lads, you've played for 100minutes of rugby, you're battered, bruised, injured and have run out of subs - There's no way you can physically run around any more. Tell you what, 25 yards out, centre of the posts, you all get one kick each - Pick your best first, it'll be best of 5. After that if all is STILL even, it's sudden death." What's not even? [/b][/quote] Teams who have more than a couple of trained goalkickers, teams who have lost goalkickers to injury, teams who are fortunate enough to have a number 8 who played fly half at youth level and can kick... there are just so many elements to a game of rugby and I feel that putting it down to one skill which is not an essential for all players is both pointless and unfair. It becomes little more than a game of chance but with an unfair disasdvantage on players who have not kicked regularly. Your point about not playing further is one I completely agree with, but if we are going to turn the thing into effectively a lottery, why not a simple coin toss? I've had a tournament settled like this before (after all the tries scored totals etc) and although we lost, there was something dignified about it - no feeling that any one player had let us down or that we were in any way inferior. Now granted this is somewhat arbitrary, particularly with sums of money involved, but I think it's just as valid in terms of the whole thing being reduced to chance - whether a number 8, kicking further down the list, gets a kick or not is not based on a skill which he has had a chance to practice. I think the somewhat muted response of the Leicester players shows how they felt - a win like this is lacking in satisfaction for the winners, and is far from dignified for the losers. [/QUOTE]
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