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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 328202" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>I have reviewed the video. I am prepared to accept that this call could have gone either way. But while Dickinson may have been right about Black "walking around", they had little choice given that the Blue THP had the Black LHP under his upper arm and was lifting him up and inwards. Its a 50/50 call at best, and as you say he should have simply reset.</p><p></p><p>The following is not directed at you Cymro, but its just a general comment for anyone reading.</p><p></p><p>One of the things I tell young referees is that illegal binding is one of the the easiest things to spot when it happens on your own side of the scrum. Its right there in front of your eyes. <strong>Insisting on a long, straight bind by ALL props on the back or the side of their opponent is the best and easiest pre-emptive step a referee can take in managing the scrum.</strong> I tell them that if they want to do just one thing on a Saturday to minimise their chances of having a "bad scrum day", its to <strong>INSIST</strong> on correct binding with a long bind to the opponents back or side, and especially <u><strong>do not</strong></u> allow binding on the opponent's upper arm. Get in and show them where you want them to bind if necessary. If they won't co-operate, ping them until they do.</p><p></p><p>If all four props are <strong>made</strong> to bind in accordance with Law 20.3, especially (b) and (c), the scrum will stay up, and it is very difficult for any of them to bore-in, twist or drop the scrum. Blue 17 in those videos is able to twist only because he is being allowed to bind on his opponent's upper arm, giving him the leverage he needs to twist and pull his opponent up, across or down, wherever he likes.</p><p></p><p>I have never forgotten what the Canterbury referee's mentor, Laurie Mahoney, told us many years ago... <u><strong>"A properly bound scrum is more likely to stay up of it own accord</strong></u>". This is because a properly formed scrum, with the props' heads and shoulders above their hips, causes the front rows lock together to form an arch, the strongest geometric shape in construction. Here's a couple of photos to illustrate what I mean. The orange overlay indicates the shape of the arch.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/smartcooky99/Scrum1-1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>In this photo, the blue player is bound legally, although I would like to see his hand a little higher. The black/white/yellow player is also bound legally, but I would like to see his hand up near the yellow dot</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/smartcooky99/Scrum2-1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Here, the purple player is bound exactly where I want - up high on his opponent's back. However, the yellow player is illegally bound on his opponent's upper arm.</p><p></p><p>Binding on the arm allows the props to keep a shorter bind, and this gives them more ability to use the combined strength of the bicep and deltoid muscles of the bind-arm to twist and pull their opponent sideways and downwards. (Anyone who doesn't believe that can try lifting up a very heavy weight, say, off a bench with a bent arm, then see how much harder it is to lift the same weight with a straight arm).</p><p></p><p>If players were all made to bind the way the purple player is bound, then scrums would rarely collapse. A player with a bind like that will find it difficult, if not impossible, to pull his opponent down, drive him up, twist him or bore in, because he cannot use his bicep to bring force to bear in any other direction that straight towards him, and that leads to the scrum being locked together, with the "locking force" being parallel to both the ground and the direction of the front rows. The result is that the front rows will remain up and the scrum steady.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 328202, member: 20605"] I have reviewed the video. I am prepared to accept that this call could have gone either way. But while Dickinson may have been right about Black "walking around", they had little choice given that the Blue THP had the Black LHP under his upper arm and was lifting him up and inwards. Its a 50/50 call at best, and as you say he should have simply reset. The following is not directed at you Cymro, but its just a general comment for anyone reading. One of the things I tell young referees is that illegal binding is one of the the easiest things to spot when it happens on your own side of the scrum. Its right there in front of your eyes. [B]Insisting on a long, straight bind by ALL props on the back or the side of their opponent is the best and easiest pre-emptive step a referee can take in managing the scrum.[/B] I tell them that if they want to do just one thing on a Saturday to minimise their chances of having a "bad scrum day", its to [B]INSIST[/B] on correct binding with a long bind to the opponents back or side, and especially [U][B]do not[/B][/U] allow binding on the opponent's upper arm. Get in and show them where you want them to bind if necessary. If they won't co-operate, ping them until they do. If all four props are [B]made[/B] to bind in accordance with Law 20.3, especially (b) and (c), the scrum will stay up, and it is very difficult for any of them to bore-in, twist or drop the scrum. Blue 17 in those videos is able to twist only because he is being allowed to bind on his opponent's upper arm, giving him the leverage he needs to twist and pull his opponent up, across or down, wherever he likes. I have never forgotten what the Canterbury referee's mentor, Laurie Mahoney, told us many years ago... [U][B]"A properly bound scrum is more likely to stay up of it own accord[/B][/U]". This is because a properly formed scrum, with the props' heads and shoulders above their hips, causes the front rows lock together to form an arch, the strongest geometric shape in construction. Here's a couple of photos to illustrate what I mean. The orange overlay indicates the shape of the arch. [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/smartcooky99/Scrum1-1.jpg[/IMG] In this photo, the blue player is bound legally, although I would like to see his hand a little higher. The black/white/yellow player is also bound legally, but I would like to see his hand up near the yellow dot [IMG]http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/smartcooky99/Scrum2-1.jpg[/IMG] Here, the purple player is bound exactly where I want - up high on his opponent's back. However, the yellow player is illegally bound on his opponent's upper arm. Binding on the arm allows the props to keep a shorter bind, and this gives them more ability to use the combined strength of the bicep and deltoid muscles of the bind-arm to twist and pull their opponent sideways and downwards. (Anyone who doesn't believe that can try lifting up a very heavy weight, say, off a bench with a bent arm, then see how much harder it is to lift the same weight with a straight arm). If players were all made to bind the way the purple player is bound, then scrums would rarely collapse. A player with a bind like that will find it difficult, if not impossible, to pull his opponent down, drive him up, twist him or bore in, because he cannot use his bicep to bring force to bear in any other direction that straight towards him, and that leads to the scrum being locked together, with the "locking force" being parallel to both the ground and the direction of the front rows. The result is that the front rows will remain up and the scrum steady. [/QUOTE]
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