Cipriani & Borthwick on Melbourne's Super15 list

Discussion in 'Super Rugby' started by munross, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. munross

    munross Guest

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  3. feicarsinn

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  4. iWin

    iWin Guest

    Please. PLEASE remove these people from English rugby. :D
    With the exception of Narraway and Lund, these people are all either druggies or people taking international spots from the more deserving, and I doubt the other two will be missed that much.
  5. monkeypigeon

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    If they're looking for a centre, there's this guy called Fergus McFadden who'd do a bit of damage under a warm Aussie sun. And he can kick, which'll make for Cips missing everything.
  6. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    They're welcome to them :p
  7. Thanks for posting the article.

    This is just a hunch but I'm guessing Steve Borthwick, Danny Cipriani, Matt Stevens, Michael Lipman, Nick Abendanon, Luke Narraway and Magnus Lund share the same agent.........

    How may of the above mentioned players will put bums on seats in Melbourne? Perhaps Cipriani but I doubt anybody else will. Add to that the fact that the above players will likely be very expensive and I can't see any, bar maybe Cipriani, moving to Victoria.
  8. monkeypigeon

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (snoopy snoopy dog dog @ Jan 24 2010, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Nick Abendanon has an Aussie style of play. He could fit in.
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    I won't disagree with that but his style of play isn't the only factor. He has been capped by England and may hold out hope of making the World Cup squad. Moving to Australia in a World Cup year would likely put an end to his chances. Also, he's probably on a decent wage in England. We've heard John O'Neill bleat for a long time that the ARU can't match the wages European clubs are paying players. Would the new franchise fork out relatively big money for a player who's unheard of in Oz and won't get spectators into the new stadium?

    All the above is guesswork on my part but I'd say they are factors mitigating against Abendanon moving to the new franchise. I think Melbourne will try spend their money on Australia qualified players in Europe (Chris Latham, Mark Gasnier, Paul Warwick, Brock James, Julian Salvi, David Lyons etc), a couple of non-Australian "marquee" names (Danny Cipriani, <strike>Troy Nathan</strike>, Juan Martin Hernandez, Doug Howlett, any number of Springboks and All Blacks) and rugby league poaches ahead of players like Abendanon who are talented but aren't big name players.
  10. bristol-iain

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Jan 24 2010, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Nick Abendanon has an Aussie style of play. He could fit in.

    What? Rubbish?
  11. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bristol-iain @ Jan 24 2010, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Nick Abendanon has an Aussie style of play. He could fit in.

    What? Rubbish?

    No. He likes to run with the ball. He's not rubbish. He's just defensively impaired and likely to have an occasional (matchly) brainfart.
  12. Charles

    Charles Guest

    Good luck trying to get Brock James...He's never gonna move away from Clermont.
  13. Nickdnz

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    Brock James in my opinion would be Australia's best move.
  14. Charles

    Charles Guest

    It probably would, but I'd be surprised if he moves away from Clermont.
  15. Tomsey

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    I can't imagine that the rebels are looking that closely at any of these players. Macqueen has said on numerous occasions that they are going to be looking to fill their squad with Australian players if they can and that their marquee signings will be European based Aussies, like Mark Gasiner and Luke Rooney That is why Damien Hill and John Connolly are over there... Brock James would be a massive signing, he’s killing it for Clermont. Might be hard to afford him though, especially seeing as though they will find it hard to fit him into a Wallabies squad that already has like 5 fly half’s in it.
  16. Charles

    Charles Guest

    Funny how Brock James is now a good player when last year he wasn't even good enough to tie the boots of Quade Cooper or Kurtley Beale... :lol:
  17. gingergenius

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    Borthwick and Cipriani won't move to Melbourne in the near future. They're too keen on England places.

    I don't think Stevens would either, because he wants to redeem himself in front of the English fans, and he may feel he owes it to Bath.

    Lipman - you could see it happening, seeing as he's been disgraced in the English game, and he grew up in Aus.

    As for Abendanon, Narraway and Lund... yeah possibly. They've been forgotten (rightly or wrongly) by England and may benefit from playing rugby elsewhere. It would especially suit Abendanon playing in a competition where fullbacks aren't allowed to tackle.
  18. munross

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    Narraway to stay with Gloucester

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    So he's out of the equation...
  19. Nickdnz

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Jan 26 2010, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
  20. Bullitt

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    I wonder why they've not been comping at the bit to gain Paul Warwicks services.
  21. paella

    paella Guest

    I hope Cipriani goes, he's only going to get better if he goes and plays some top rugby - and the top rugby is in the super 15 imo. Anyway, he's 22 now, if he has a few years down South he'll be back when he's 25/26, and possibly playing for England at 27/28. I doubt he'll be too bothered about being on the England team atm, it's not as if they'll do anything but get whipped by France, Ireland and Wales in the next few months. If plays at the right level then we'll have a world class fly half come 2015 of about Carter and Giteau's standard - they'll be 32/33 and Cipriani's going to be 27, so we'll have the upper hand.
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