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CJ Stander to retire at the end of the season
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<blockquote data-quote="munstermuffin" data-source="post: 1031160" data-attributes="member: 39240"><p>Yes and if you read it you will see he stated it wasn't financial. And more so was on discussions had.</p><p>Yes he signed in June as all players usually do a few months before hand. And arrived in October. Like I am still lost here. CJ has been clear from day 1 in his story and it seems to be logical and fair.</p><p>Like you are making claims now they waited until they seen had he 2nd year syndrome. Maybe the Bulls felt they couldn't match but there no mention they offered a deal. In fact it says "</p><p>However, it may be that the Bulls' preference for their own loose trio of Pierre Spies, Dewald Potgieter and Deon Stegmann, coupled with the arrival of Jacques Potgieter and the up-and-coming former SA under-20 captain Arno Botha, may have something to do with the decision.</p><p></p><p>The Bulls also have current SA under-20 captain Wian Liebenberg and IRB Junior World Cup Player of the Year nominee Shaun Adendorff."</p><p></p><p>So maybe Bulls felt the same as Mayer and that he wasn't good enough as a backrower and would only offer a deal if he moved to hooker.</p><p></p><p>To suggest now that the timing should have meant CJ waited to hear is BS too. If SA Rugby and Bulls wanted him then they'd at least have made an offer. And if the point you are making is true then I'd be more worried for the poor poor business model.</p><p></p><p>I still see huge holes like:</p><p>1. Where is proof he was offered a deal as backrower to dispute what CJ said?</p><p>2. What did IRFU/Ireland do wrong. They never snatched any young guy.</p><p>3. If you were told unless you change you're going nowhere what would you have done?</p><p>4. If SA rated him so highly why didn't they cap him. Knowing well he would not have been allowed stay in Ireland then also as he'd be an NIQ player. Again if this is not known in SA then I'd seriously question SARU.</p><p></p><p>In fact the more I hear stories from Rassie when he was here, Jacques also and others SARU seems to be winging it.</p><p></p><p>That amongst so so many other items seems to leave many many holes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="munstermuffin, post: 1031160, member: 39240"] Yes and if you read it you will see he stated it wasn't financial. And more so was on discussions had. Yes he signed in June as all players usually do a few months before hand. And arrived in October. Like I am still lost here. CJ has been clear from day 1 in his story and it seems to be logical and fair. Like you are making claims now they waited until they seen had he 2nd year syndrome. Maybe the Bulls felt they couldn't match but there no mention they offered a deal. In fact it says " However, it may be that the Bulls' preference for their own loose trio of Pierre Spies, Dewald Potgieter and Deon Stegmann, coupled with the arrival of Jacques Potgieter and the up-and-coming former SA under-20 captain Arno Botha, may have something to do with the decision. The Bulls also have current SA under-20 captain Wian Liebenberg and IRB Junior World Cup Player of the Year nominee Shaun Adendorff." So maybe Bulls felt the same as Mayer and that he wasn't good enough as a backrower and would only offer a deal if he moved to hooker. To suggest now that the timing should have meant CJ waited to hear is BS too. If SA Rugby and Bulls wanted him then they'd at least have made an offer. And if the point you are making is true then I'd be more worried for the poor poor business model. I still see huge holes like: 1. Where is proof he was offered a deal as backrower to dispute what CJ said? 2. What did IRFU/Ireland do wrong. They never snatched any young guy. 3. If you were told unless you change you're going nowhere what would you have done? 4. If SA rated him so highly why didn't they cap him. Knowing well he would not have been allowed stay in Ireland then also as he'd be an NIQ player. Again if this is not known in SA then I'd seriously question SARU. In fact the more I hear stories from Rassie when he was here, Jacques also and others SARU seems to be winging it. That amongst so so many other items seems to leave many many holes. [/QUOTE]
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