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CJ Stander to retire at the end of the season
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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 1032706" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>But if that happens in the overwhelming majority of cases they get nationality through jus sanguinis. You are basically creating a rule to protect 1% of the population while allowing the other 99% to exploit such rule. That is precisely the problem here. </p><p></p><p>I cannot think of a single example of a player in the situation you describe. Not saying there aren't, i am just not aware of them. Could you mention some so I can have a look? Someone who has parents from X, never played for other countries and wants to play for X and is not allowed to, as per your comment. </p><p></p><p>I have no problem, none whatsoever, with say, Jordi Murphy playing for Ireland or George North playing for Wales (at least with the info I have on them).</p><p>I do have a problem with (i'll name someone else since CJ has had enough) Beast (HA!). </p><p></p><p>And tier 1 gets its fair share of scrutiny. Do not even get me started on tier 2/3. Some of the national teams are basically +50% rejects from tier 1 countries. There are cases that go against everything i want the national teams to stand for. True story (i'll replace names and countries): 'Juan', over 18 yo, born and raised in Arg has Euro grandmother, therefore EU passport. He goes to work at a hostel for a summer in Spain. Decides to stay longer. Gets a part-time job in Belgium. While there he starts playing rugby at local club. 4 years later he is wearing the country's national team. He's not doing it for the money. He just likes the idea of playing for a national team and this is a way for him to achieve that goal. Everything is by the book. The rules allow him and the RU to do that. </p><p>This is what is going on today. </p><p>You probably think it is right. I do not. I think it is sad as ****. </p><p></p><p></p><p>As things stand today there quite a few cases that are mind-boggling even in tier 1. CJ's is not even the worst. To be honest, I was holding my tongue a bit when some (not all) south african posters were arguing here. Brian Mujati had over 10 tests for the springboks while he was not a South African citizen. I love the guy (and it's clearly not his fault) but that is just silly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 1032706, member: 55747"] But if that happens in the overwhelming majority of cases they get nationality through jus sanguinis. You are basically creating a rule to protect 1% of the population while allowing the other 99% to exploit such rule. That is precisely the problem here. I cannot think of a single example of a player in the situation you describe. Not saying there aren't, i am just not aware of them. Could you mention some so I can have a look? Someone who has parents from X, never played for other countries and wants to play for X and is not allowed to, as per your comment. I have no problem, none whatsoever, with say, Jordi Murphy playing for Ireland or George North playing for Wales (at least with the info I have on them). I do have a problem with (i'll name someone else since CJ has had enough) Beast (HA!). And tier 1 gets its fair share of scrutiny. Do not even get me started on tier 2/3. Some of the national teams are basically +50% rejects from tier 1 countries. There are cases that go against everything i want the national teams to stand for. True story (i'll replace names and countries): 'Juan', over 18 yo, born and raised in Arg has Euro grandmother, therefore EU passport. He goes to work at a hostel for a summer in Spain. Decides to stay longer. Gets a part-time job in Belgium. While there he starts playing rugby at local club. 4 years later he is wearing the country's national team. He's not doing it for the money. He just likes the idea of playing for a national team and this is a way for him to achieve that goal. Everything is by the book. The rules allow him and the RU to do that. This is what is going on today. You probably think it is right. I do not. I think it is sad as ****. As things stand today there quite a few cases that are mind-boggling even in tier 1. CJ's is not even the worst. To be honest, I was holding my tongue a bit when some (not all) south african posters were arguing here. Brian Mujati had over 10 tests for the springboks while he was not a South African citizen. I love the guy (and it's clearly not his fault) but that is just silly. [/QUOTE]
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