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<blockquote data-quote="gingergenius" data-source="post: 296346"><p>well those England teams contain Armitage, Care, Crane, Easter, Vickery, Mears and Kay... who weren't regular 1st choice England players this autumn. This I'd say is a vital detail when you're comparing starting lineups.</p><p></p><p>Let's pick what I think is the strongest England team based on players involved in recent squads: Armitage, Cueto, Tait, Flutey, Monye, Flood, Hodgson, Easter, Moody, Croft, Borthwick, Shaw, Wilson, Mears, Sheridan.</p><p></p><p>Comparing Northampton:</p><p></p><p><div align='center'>Foden 15 Armitage</p><p>Ashton 14 Cueto</p><p>Clarke 13 Tait</p><p>Downey 12 Flutey</p><p>Reihana 11 Monye</p><p>Myler 10 Flood</p><p>Dickson 9 Hodgson</p><p>Wilson 8 Easter</p><p>Dowson 7 Moody</p><p>Best 6 Croft</p><p>Kruger 5 Borthwick</p><p>Lawes 4 Shaw</p><p>Murray 3 Wilson</p><p>Hartley 2 Mears</p><p>Tonga'huia 1 Sheridan</div></p><p></p><p>I'd put Reihana in at 14 and Murray at 3, and have a think about Clarke at 13. No further changes. So there's 1 Englishman at Northampton who I'd maybe have in the team. Doesn't say much really.</p><p></p><p>Saracens:</p><p></p><p><div align='center'>Goode 15 Armitage</p><p>Cato 14 Cueto</p><p>Ratuvou 13 Tait</p><p>Barritt 12 Flutey</p><p>Wyles 11 Monye</p><p>Jackson 10 Flood</p><p>Marshall 9 Hodgson</p><p>Joubert 8 Easter</p><p>Saull 7 Moody</p><p>van Heerden 6 Croft</p><p>Borthwick 5 Borthwick</p><p>Vyvyan 4 Shaw</p><p>Nieto 3 Wilson</p><p>Brits 2 Mears</p><p>Aguero 1 Sheridan</div></p><p></p><p>Well. I'd have Brits over Mears. I'd also think about Ratuvou, Jackson, Joubert, Saull, van Heerden, and Nieto. But only think. And only one of them is English. And this is the top team in the Guinness Premiership.</p><p></p><p>So no, if you select anything approaching a team that is close to England at full strength, then they'd be much stronger than any club side.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gingergenius, post: 296346"] well those England teams contain Armitage, Care, Crane, Easter, Vickery, Mears and Kay... who weren't regular 1st choice England players this autumn. This I'd say is a vital detail when you're comparing starting lineups. Let's pick what I think is the strongest England team based on players involved in recent squads: Armitage, Cueto, Tait, Flutey, Monye, Flood, Hodgson, Easter, Moody, Croft, Borthwick, Shaw, Wilson, Mears, Sheridan. Comparing Northampton: <div align='center'>Foden 15 Armitage Ashton 14 Cueto Clarke 13 Tait Downey 12 Flutey Reihana 11 Monye Myler 10 Flood Dickson 9 Hodgson Wilson 8 Easter Dowson 7 Moody Best 6 Croft Kruger 5 Borthwick Lawes 4 Shaw Murray 3 Wilson Hartley 2 Mears Tonga'huia 1 Sheridan</div> I'd put Reihana in at 14 and Murray at 3, and have a think about Clarke at 13. No further changes. So there's 1 Englishman at Northampton who I'd maybe have in the team. Doesn't say much really. Saracens: <div align='center'>Goode 15 Armitage Cato 14 Cueto Ratuvou 13 Tait Barritt 12 Flutey Wyles 11 Monye Jackson 10 Flood Marshall 9 Hodgson Joubert 8 Easter Saull 7 Moody van Heerden 6 Croft Borthwick 5 Borthwick Vyvyan 4 Shaw Nieto 3 Wilson Brits 2 Mears Aguero 1 Sheridan</div> Well. I'd have Brits over Mears. I'd also think about Ratuvou, Jackson, Joubert, Saull, van Heerden, and Nieto. But only think. And only one of them is English. And this is the top team in the Guinness Premiership. So no, if you select anything approaching a team that is close to England at full strength, then they'd be much stronger than any club side. [/QUOTE]
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