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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 1099062" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>That's fair I suppose, I really don't think we are. We should be on playing talent alone but I think our coaching and leadership has let us down in the last two seasons, we honestly couldn't have done worse in either imo and I'm currently in a tiny minority of Leinsterfans that think we need a change of coaching staff after the upcoming season. I doubt there's a club team in the world that goes through a selection of La Rochelle, Toulouse, Montpellier and Leinster over three knockout games though which would likely be required to win a competition of this type.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again a fair assessment, not one I agree with though. I think the occasion and pressure got to us massively in Marseille, I was at that and the semi final and the players body language was completely different, they seemed less vocal on an eye test and altogether far more rigid and closed off, all that despite being relatively dominant in the first half. After a bad first half v the Bulls I'd guess the same applied but I wasn't at that one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Mine was more an internal look at Leinster, I can't compare to the Crusaders, only commented based on their players not exactly being out of Leinster's league or anything. I just know if I had a choice as a Leinster fan for a neutral tie I'd back us in a series of matches rather than one no matter the opposition, we have the talent to beat anyone but I don't think our coaches are great assessors of opposition sides like I believe Schmidt and Farrell to be for example, so having a week to go back to the drawing board and reassess will help us more than our opponents. </p><p></p><p>One other thing I'd wonder about SR based on your analysis of the Crusaders is how much the SR format benefits their best sides. They have one uninterrupted block of games, the cohesion for the best coached sides must be off the charts. Comparatively, between the first and last European games there's two full international windows and multiple mini training weekends for Irish players. The longest (mostly) uninterrupted in season block our squads get is from December to the first week in February before players go off to Irish camp and this is generally when the Leinster hype train gets going, afterwards second string losses get ignored and disjointed performances excused due to the 6 nations. Leinster were at their very best when Declan Kidney was ignoring a lot of our better players for Munster guys he was comfortable with*. I do wonder if SR would be a bit more random like European rugby if the rugby championship was played in March and April. </p><p></p><p>*Also when we had guys like Nacewa and Hines available each week which is huge and a counterpoint to this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 1099062, member: 45598"] That's fair I suppose, I really don't think we are. We should be on playing talent alone but I think our coaching and leadership has let us down in the last two seasons, we honestly couldn't have done worse in either imo and I'm currently in a tiny minority of Leinsterfans that think we need a change of coaching staff after the upcoming season. I doubt there's a club team in the world that goes through a selection of La Rochelle, Toulouse, Montpellier and Leinster over three knockout games though which would likely be required to win a competition of this type. Again a fair assessment, not one I agree with though. I think the occasion and pressure got to us massively in Marseille, I was at that and the semi final and the players body language was completely different, they seemed less vocal on an eye test and altogether far more rigid and closed off, all that despite being relatively dominant in the first half. After a bad first half v the Bulls I'd guess the same applied but I wasn't at that one. Mine was more an internal look at Leinster, I can't compare to the Crusaders, only commented based on their players not exactly being out of Leinster's league or anything. I just know if I had a choice as a Leinster fan for a neutral tie I'd back us in a series of matches rather than one no matter the opposition, we have the talent to beat anyone but I don't think our coaches are great assessors of opposition sides like I believe Schmidt and Farrell to be for example, so having a week to go back to the drawing board and reassess will help us more than our opponents. One other thing I'd wonder about SR based on your analysis of the Crusaders is how much the SR format benefits their best sides. They have one uninterrupted block of games, the cohesion for the best coached sides must be off the charts. Comparatively, between the first and last European games there's two full international windows and multiple mini training weekends for Irish players. The longest (mostly) uninterrupted in season block our squads get is from December to the first week in February before players go off to Irish camp and this is generally when the Leinster hype train gets going, afterwards second string losses get ignored and disjointed performances excused due to the 6 nations. Leinster were at their very best when Declan Kidney was ignoring a lot of our better players for Munster guys he was comfortable with*. I do wonder if SR would be a bit more random like European rugby if the rugby championship was played in March and April. *Also when we had guys like Nacewa and Hines available each week which is huge and a counterpoint to this. [/QUOTE]
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