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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 1099124" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>Fair enough. If i pointed fingers at you i apologize. I was making a generalization. </p><p></p><p>I just perceive a massive, MASSIVE underestimation of the crusaders here. Gargantuan. </p><p>Again, hardly perfect or irrefutable evidence, i know, but ask bulls' fans who they'd rather face. Or Stormers. </p><p></p><p>One season, ONE SINGLE SEASON was all it took for the best SA teams (bulls, stormers, sharks and lions (apologies to cheetahs and kings, but that's unfortunately true)) to get two of them to the competition's final. </p><p></p><p>I can't see any (intellectually honest) bulls, sharks or stormers fans arguing they would like their odds against crusaders in 2022. </p><p></p><p>And let's not even get into things like consistency etc. They've lost only a handful of games since 2017 and every one of them is a nailbiter. So much that the only tournament they didn't win was 2021's trans tasman where </p><p></p><p>- they won all their games</p><p>- those who advanced to the final never faced the crusaders</p><p></p><p>They basically had to adjust SR's format to level the playing field. And i'm not taking about opposition like zebre or dragons. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This conversation makes me a bit uncomfortable as i probably come across as a saders rabid fan. Nothing could be further from the truth. But i find it hard to believe we are actually questioning whether they are the best club level team in the planet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 1099124, member: 55747"] Fair enough. If i pointed fingers at you i apologize. I was making a generalization. I just perceive a massive, MASSIVE underestimation of the crusaders here. Gargantuan. Again, hardly perfect or irrefutable evidence, i know, but ask bulls' fans who they'd rather face. Or Stormers. One season, ONE SINGLE SEASON was all it took for the best SA teams (bulls, stormers, sharks and lions (apologies to cheetahs and kings, but that's unfortunately true)) to get two of them to the competition's final. I can't see any (intellectually honest) bulls, sharks or stormers fans arguing they would like their odds against crusaders in 2022. And let's not even get into things like consistency etc. They've lost only a handful of games since 2017 and every one of them is a nailbiter. So much that the only tournament they didn't win was 2021's trans tasman where - they won all their games - those who advanced to the final never faced the crusaders They basically had to adjust SR's format to level the playing field. And i'm not taking about opposition like zebre or dragons. This conversation makes me a bit uncomfortable as i probably come across as a saders rabid fan. Nothing could be further from the truth. But i find it hard to believe we are actually questioning whether they are the best club level team in the planet. [/QUOTE]
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