CVC looking to buy shares in Pro14

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  1. higgik

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    according to The Rugby Paper yesterday, CVC are looking at buying shares in the Pro14.
    Maybe the start of a British and Irish league.
     
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    I’d like this, we could have 15 teams and call it the super 15.
     
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    NOOOOOO.

    Unions - please tell them to f**k off and never darken our door again.


    CVC are bad bad bad news. Long term health of the game will suffer - regardless of whether a bit more money is pulled in at the top end. It'll stay there and you'll end up like France.



    [I'd be worried about the SRU and WRU. Neither of those can see beyond $$$ flashed in their faces.]
     
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    Walesonline main rugby writer though....
     
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    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...mpete-in-grand-final-after-cvc-deal-tt6bbbxk8

    This is the first step to a European/South African league. The Pro 14 and Premiership will be merged before long.

    I for one think this is great for rugby. We'll end up with a Hiberno-British-South African conference and a continental European conference with fewer games but all games being of higher intensity. The club season is a mess at the moment and needs to be revamped.

    Will the £120m be split evenly amongst the participants (£8.57m each) or among the 5 Unions (£24m for the FIR, IRFU, SARU, SRU, WRU)?
     
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    Very interesting...
     
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    First, let’s have a British & Irish league. Move London Irish and Cornish Pirates to Pro14, giving 16 teams in 4 groups of 4, play home and away in groups, (6 matches), and another 6 matches against teams from the other group.
    Meanwhile, the Anglo League, should expand to 16 teams, adding Ealing, South Yorkshire, (Doncaster/Rotherham), Yorkshire, (Leeds), and Coventry. They play same system as above, then each team plays 4 matches v the other league.
    Play off in the League, followed by Grand Final between leagues. Total weeks = 22, including 1 bye week in the regular season and a week off between national final and Grand Final. Max matches played = 20.
     
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    Don't necessarily agree with your proposed conference split as I doubt there's enough strength in depth in England to sustain 16 clubs but agree conferences are the right way to go.

    Initially we'll see two separate leagues with the winners facing off. That'll morph into the playoffs combining to declare and overall ProPremiership champion. Then we'll see teams move around the conferences. How about the current Premiership expanding to include the Welsh regions. The Pro10 then adds London Irish, 2 more SA teams and 3 teams from the US/Canadian eastern seaboard who jump from MLR.
     
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    English rugby can't sustain 12 teams without dragging most clubs into big debt, let alone these Championship teams that people still have a nostalgic lovin for because another Exeter might happen.
    Yorkshire have just said they are not doing full time contracts.

    I would love for English rugby to gut 2-4 Prem clubs, Join the pro league and have the SA teams join.
    Have two leagues promotion and relegation between said leagues.
    Have a U18 and U23/A league league similar thing. (Maybe for U18 not have relegation and instead groups).


    But again the PRL/RFU will NOT let a English team go to Pro league unless the whole league joins.
     
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    Cornwall and Irish would die within a season without the RFU/PRL.
    They'd lose their entire academy system, for a start
     
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    How about 4 Irish, 4 Welsh, 2 Scottish, 2 Italian, Cornish Pirates, London Irish, plus, (eventually both London Welsh and London Scottish), with an Anglo/African Conference of 6 SA teams, (the SR teams plus current 2 in Pro14), and 10 English teams.
     
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