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<blockquote data-quote="Dunhookin" data-source="post: 826812" data-attributes="member: 74570"><p>Spot on again Cooky - but IMO too much is made of the potential 8v7 advantage. The Pumas 'patented' the co-ordinated shove - bajadita as an alternative to playing a striking hooker. Many in Argentina did not agree with it, but enough support was gained for it to be adopted as their thing. </p><p></p><p>Crucial for bajadita was synchronisation and timing. The timing of the co-ordinated shove was at the split second the opposing hooker moved his feet to strike the ball with the intention of disrupting the useability of the ball won. And on their own ball timing was again crucial, the co-ordinated shove exactly as the ball was fed - in those days bent feeding was properly policed - so the pack using bajadita literally stepped over the ball as their c-ordinated shove gained enough momentum to do that. </p><p></p><p>So with 8v7 in mind - why is the perceived disadvantage of the 7 enough justification to ignore bent feeding with all the deeply tedious dysfunctions caused? A skilled hooker with even moderate foot speed will strike in channel 1 and the ball is out the back and in play in less than a second. As soon as he's struck the ball, the hooker gets back into a pushing position - so the disadvantage of the whole thing is on very fine margins indeed. </p><p></p><p>Certain elite level coaches perpetuated the nonsense that the hooker moving his feet was dangerous as it destabilised the scrum...and therefore the scrum must be a pushing contest only and bent feeding is ok...?!! Who did they think they were kidding? This was a typical 'safety conquers all' strategy to deflect focus away from their real agenda - which is this:</p><p></p><p>Elite coaches regard scrums as penalty opportunities - and only that. Scrums have allowed to become a cheap penalty fest - because they're a ready supply of kickable penalties which win matches. The reality for these coaches is getting results - their sole concern is a W on Saturday - the harsh truth about professional sport. This means screwing dodgy penalties at scrums for cheap points - ultimately dull, tediously negative and absolutely bad for our game. But elite level coaches don't give a tinker's cuss for what's good for our game - they only care about results - cheap shot penalties being high on their desire list. </p><p></p><p>So they coach packs to screw penalties at scrums and we have the unedifying sight of players high fiving when they've screwed yet another penalty from a scrum. Our game deserves better than this bull sh*t - we - genuine rugby men deserve better</p><p></p><p>The clear fact remains that WR remain responsible for this excruciating debacle and are abjectly failing us. They're the governing body - or supposed to be...? With scrums they're governing an absolute embarrassing shambles - time they were exposed for that</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dunhookin, post: 826812, member: 74570"] Spot on again Cooky - but IMO too much is made of the potential 8v7 advantage. The Pumas 'patented' the co-ordinated shove - bajadita as an alternative to playing a striking hooker. Many in Argentina did not agree with it, but enough support was gained for it to be adopted as their thing. Crucial for bajadita was synchronisation and timing. The timing of the co-ordinated shove was at the split second the opposing hooker moved his feet to strike the ball with the intention of disrupting the useability of the ball won. And on their own ball timing was again crucial, the co-ordinated shove exactly as the ball was fed - in those days bent feeding was properly policed - so the pack using bajadita literally stepped over the ball as their c-ordinated shove gained enough momentum to do that. So with 8v7 in mind - why is the perceived disadvantage of the 7 enough justification to ignore bent feeding with all the deeply tedious dysfunctions caused? A skilled hooker with even moderate foot speed will strike in channel 1 and the ball is out the back and in play in less than a second. As soon as he's struck the ball, the hooker gets back into a pushing position - so the disadvantage of the whole thing is on very fine margins indeed. Certain elite level coaches perpetuated the nonsense that the hooker moving his feet was dangerous as it destabilised the scrum...and therefore the scrum must be a pushing contest only and bent feeding is ok...?!! Who did they think they were kidding? This was a typical 'safety conquers all' strategy to deflect focus away from their real agenda - which is this: Elite coaches regard scrums as penalty opportunities - and only that. Scrums have allowed to become a cheap penalty fest - because they're a ready supply of kickable penalties which win matches. The reality for these coaches is getting results - their sole concern is a W on Saturday - the harsh truth about professional sport. This means screwing dodgy penalties at scrums for cheap points - ultimately dull, tediously negative and absolutely bad for our game. But elite level coaches don't give a tinker's cuss for what's good for our game - they only care about results - cheap shot penalties being high on their desire list. So they coach packs to screw penalties at scrums and we have the unedifying sight of players high fiving when they've screwed yet another penalty from a scrum. Our game deserves better than this bull sh*t - we - genuine rugby men deserve better The clear fact remains that WR remain responsible for this excruciating debacle and are abjectly failing us. They're the governing body - or supposed to be...? With scrums they're governing an absolute embarrassing shambles - time they were exposed for that [/QUOTE]
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