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<blockquote data-quote="aligmacd123" data-source="post: 264695"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steve-o @ May 29 2009, 12:56 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=398099" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p>Yes thats what i was thinking. Going different places and playing different style helps you personally and your international team because you know a bit more about how they play by actually playing that way. This means you can learn to counter or better it. </p><p></p><p><strong>So rather than thinking your players are being stolen, they are actually going on a high paid spying trip.</strong></p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>That's real cute.</p><p></p><p>Look I dislike whining much as any other person. It doesn't solve anything, it doesn't change anything, it does nothing besides making people annoyed with each other. </p><p>OK.</p><p></p><p>So some are whining and some are expressing a genuine concern for <strong>THEIR</strong> provincial rugby teams standard. If a player plays for the <strong>Natal</strong> Sharks he is representing <strong>me and the rest of the rugby loving people of Natal. </strong>We want our team and players to be strong. Sport is competitive. For sport to stay relevant you must be able to compete. When players are leaving annually our sporting and competitive spirit is being taken away as well.</p><p></p><p>I've learnt to accept the reality of the situation. SA is still a 3rd world country and these players have short careers so they follow the money more often than not, but it still sucks big time nonetheless. </p><p></p><p>I see in your sig you have Godman (I think its him). How would you honestly feel if he got a big contract from a Japanese club and off he went. After all that money from the academy and your clubs time spent on him only to see him go off to a foreign country. Would you say he's on 'some awesome spy trip'. It think not! And this is happening every year. After the Lions tour and the Tri Nations players like Jean De Villiers, Frans Steyn, Brian Habana and Jacque Fourie are expected to leave SA with like 5 offers each to choose from.</p><p></p><p>Now lets take it further. Imagine he was a bit younger, say 22, was born in Edinburgh and he came through the academy and Scotlands youth systems, and had been knocking on the door for Scotland selection for 2 season, only to go to Japan for a big contract and join their Japan A team effectively ruling him out for Scottish selection ever. That would suck hey? Well that's exactly what is happening with Brad Barritt when joined the England Saxons.</p><p></p><p>Again I agree some people are whining and constantly 'picking fights' so to say, but a little understanding would be appreciated.</p><p></p><p>Secret spy trip my ass, boet.</p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p>Haha</p><p></p><p>Its not Godman, its Thom and Max Evans and John Barclay. But I get get your point none the less. I would be extremely ****** if they went to Japan or somewhere like that because they are good players and they deserve their chance on the international stage. </p><p></p><p>I think, for once, the SRU are ahead of everyone else because they have tied down two of the most exciting Scottish players in big money contracts (relative to the SRU, somewhere in the region of £250k a year) so that they will play in Scotland till after the World Cup in 2011. </p><p></p><p>Obviously the respective countries unions does their best to persuade them to stay but they just haven't acted quick enough by not signing their players up before foreign offers come in.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="aligmacd123, post: 264695"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steve-o @ May 29 2009, 12:56 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=398099']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Yes thats what i was thinking. Going different places and playing different style helps you personally and your international team because you know a bit more about how they play by actually playing that way. This means you can learn to counter or better it. [b]So rather than thinking your players are being stolen, they are actually going on a high paid spying trip.[/b] [/b][/quote] That's real cute. Look I dislike whining much as any other person. It doesn't solve anything, it doesn't change anything, it does nothing besides making people annoyed with each other. OK. So some are whining and some are expressing a genuine concern for [b]THEIR[/b] provincial rugby teams standard. If a player plays for the [b]Natal[/b] Sharks he is representing [b]me and the rest of the rugby loving people of Natal. [/b]We want our team and players to be strong. Sport is competitive. For sport to stay relevant you must be able to compete. When players are leaving annually our sporting and competitive spirit is being taken away as well. I've learnt to accept the reality of the situation. SA is still a 3rd world country and these players have short careers so they follow the money more often than not, but it still sucks big time nonetheless. I see in your sig you have Godman (I think its him). How would you honestly feel if he got a big contract from a Japanese club and off he went. After all that money from the academy and your clubs time spent on him only to see him go off to a foreign country. Would you say he's on 'some awesome spy trip'. It think not! And this is happening every year. After the Lions tour and the Tri Nations players like Jean De Villiers, Frans Steyn, Brian Habana and Jacque Fourie are expected to leave SA with like 5 offers each to choose from. Now lets take it further. Imagine he was a bit younger, say 22, was born in Edinburgh and he came through the academy and Scotlands youth systems, and had been knocking on the door for Scotland selection for 2 season, only to go to Japan for a big contract and join their Japan A team effectively ruling him out for Scottish selection ever. That would suck hey? Well that's exactly what is happening with Brad Barritt when joined the England Saxons. Again I agree some people are whining and constantly 'picking fights' so to say, but a little understanding would be appreciated. Secret spy trip my ass, boet. [/b][/quote] Haha Its not Godman, its Thom and Max Evans and John Barclay. But I get get your point none the less. I would be extremely ****** if they went to Japan or somewhere like that because they are good players and they deserve their chance on the international stage. I think, for once, the SRU are ahead of everyone else because they have tied down two of the most exciting Scottish players in big money contracts (relative to the SRU, somewhere in the region of £250k a year) so that they will play in Scotland till after the World Cup in 2011. Obviously the respective countries unions does their best to persuade them to stay but they just haven't acted quick enough by not signing their players up before foreign offers come in. [/QUOTE]
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