• Help Support The Rugby Forum :

Emerging Springboks v Lions

A

An Tarbh

Guest
So this seems like a distraction especially given how thread bare the Lions are in certain positions.

We'll see if the dirt trackers can put in a decent performance but given how most of them have played in the warm ups we could be in for trouble.

Team I'd expect to see:

15. Earls, 14. Williams, 13. D'Arcy, 12. Flutey, 11. Fitzgerald, 10. Hook, 9. Blair, 1. Sheridan, 2. Ford, 3. Hayes, 4. Shaw, 5. Hines, 6. Worsley, 7. Williams, 8. Powell.
 
Id go with that but I dont think they will risk Williams at 7. Payne to start at loosehead also
 
They really should have called up a back row replacement, even if only as cannon fodder for these matches. You don't want to play Wallace or Williams in this match.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Western Province flyhalf Willem de Waal and Free State Cheetahs wing Danwel Demas, were called into the Emerging Springboks squad on Tuesday.

The pair replace Golden Lions fullback/wing Louis Ludik and Blue Bulls flyhalf Burton Francis who have withdrawn through injury. The Emerging Springboks face the British & Irish Lions at Newlands in Cape Town on Tuesday, June 23.

The revised squad:

Forwards: Jacques Botes, Jean Deysel, Wian du Preez, Werner Kruger, Patrick Cilliers, Tiaan Liebenberg, Bandisa Maku, Dewald Potgieter (captain), Wilhelm Steenkamp, Steven Sykes, Franco van der Merwe, Duane Vermeulen.

Backs: Heini Adams, Bjorn Basson, Willem de Waal, Zane Kirchner, Danwel Demas, Morgan Newman, Earl Rose, Deon van Rensburg, Jano Vermaak, Luzuko Vulindlu.
[/b]
http://sport.iafrica.com/news/1724482.htm

Starting team should look like this:

1.Wian du Preez
2.Bandisa Maku (still can't believe they picked him ahead of Derick Kuun!)
3.Werner Kruger
4.Steven Sykes
5.Wilhelm Steenkamp
6.Dewald Potgieter (captain)
7.Jean Deysel
8.Duane Vermeulen
9.Jano Vermaak
10.Earl Rose
11.Danwel Demas
12.Deon van Rensburg
13.Morgan Newman
14.Bjorn Basson
15.Zane Kirchner

16.Tiaan Liebenberg
17.Patrick Cilliers
18.Franco van der Merwe
19.Jacques Botes
20.Heini Adams
21.Willem de Waal
22.Luzuko Vulindlu

Not too bad a side, might just give the Lions a bit of a contest, especially the back-row of Dewald Potgieter, Jean Deysel & Duane Vermeulen.
 
I think emerging Boks will have numerous problems on arena

And this will be their older colleagues' fault

Because they have got Lions angry :lol:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LeksoRugby @ Jun 21 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I think emerging Boks will have numerous problems on arena

And this will be their older colleagues' fault

Because they have got Lions angry :lol:[/b]


I didnt get what are u talking about? are talking about 1997 tour?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Intercept King JdV @ Jun 22 2009, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Western Province flyhalf Willem de Waal and Free State Cheetahs wing Danwel Demas, were called into the Emerging Springboks squad on Tuesday.

The pair replace Golden Lions fullback/wing Louis Ludik and Blue Bulls flyhalf Burton Francis who have withdrawn through injury. The Emerging Springboks face the British & Irish Lions at Newlands in Cape Town on Tuesday, June 23.

The revised squad:

Forwards: Jacques Botes, Jean Deysel, Wian du Preez, Werner Kruger, Patrick Cilliers, Tiaan Liebenberg, Bandisa Maku, Dewald Potgieter (captain), Wilhelm Steenkamp, Steven Sykes, Franco van der Merwe, Duane Vermeulen.

Backs: Heini Adams, Bjorn Basson, Willem de Waal, Zane Kirchner, Danwel Demas, Morgan Newman, Earl Rose, Deon van Rensburg, Jano Vermaak, Luzuko Vulindlu.
[/b]
http://sport.iafrica.com/news/1724482.htm

Starting team should look like this:

1.Wian du Preez
2.Bandisa Maku (still can't believe they picked him ahead of Derick Kuun!)
3.Werner Kruger
4.Steven Sykes
5.Wilhelm Steenkamp
6.Dewald Potgieter (captain)
7.Jean Deysel
8.Duane Vermeulen
9.Jano Vermaak
10.Earl Rose
11.Danwel Demas
12.Deon van Rensburg
13.Morgan Newman
14.Bjorn Basson
15.Zane Kirchner

16.Tiaan Liebenberg
17.Patrick Cilliers
18.Franco van der Merwe
19.Jacques Botes
20.Heini Adams
21.Willem de Waal
22.Luzuko Vulindlu

Not too bad a side, might just give the Lions a bit of a contest, especially the back-row of Dewald Potgieter, Jean Deysel & Duane Vermeulen.
[/b][/quote]

This team will get beat for sure. Should be allowed to pick players even if they have a couple of caps. We don't have a B team that play regularly, surely we should have a team that plays regularly and feeds the national team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sebastian_Chabal @ Jun 22 2009, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I didnt get what are u talking about? are talking about 1997 tour?[/b]
Kinda simple really. The Lions are going to go out and try and cause some PAIN!. PAIN I say!
 
Lions by 5-10 Emerging boks look prty thin in some positions due to the Quota illnes
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Blue Bulls fullback Zane Kirchner and Lions scrumhalf Jano Vermaak are the men who can make the biggest point in their favour when the Emerging Springboks face the British and Irish Lions at Newlands on Tuesday night.

The Emerging Bok squad was named three weeks ago but the starting team was only named on Monday morning, two days after the first test in the series which showed that neither Kirchner nor Vermaak would be out of place in the Bok squad.

When Kirchner and Stefan Terblanche were omitted from the initial Bok squad it was argued by the Bok management that they did not fit the fullback proto-type that was needed. JP Pietersen was mooted as the probable fullback, chosen out of position from wing to suit a policy of all-out attack.

That selection never happened, possibly because of a consensus within the squad that Frans Steyn's prodigious field kicking boot would better suit the game the Boks wanted to play -- which judging from this past weekend was a percentage orientated territory game.

But there were some who wondered while watching the Boks in the first half why the management, if they were going to put so much emphasis on the boot, just never went with either of the two specialist fullbacks if all they were going to require from the No 15 was that he kick the ball back.

Steyn has massive advantages as a fullback, and the length of his field kicking certainly helped the Boks on occasions at Absa Stadium. However, it was risky playing him out of position, and he did not always look comfortable. The Emerging Bok game is the best stage outside of the Super 14 final on which Kirchner can show that he is worthy of international consideration.

Ditto for Vermaak, who must have looked on quite incredulously at the weekend as the man selected into the Bok squad ahead of him, Stormers scrumhalf Ricky Januarie, just made one mistake after the other after coming onto the field as a rather ill-advised replacement for Fourie du Preez.

If Bok coach Peter de Villiers was right when he said he wanted fresh legs and an injection of pace, then Vermaak was the scrumhalf to give it to him -- not Januarie, who has been out of form for the Stormers and has looked slow and ponderous the entire year.

The side, to be captained by Dewaldt Potgieter, the unsung hero of the recent Bulls success in the Super 14, includes Earl Rose at flyhalf. Rose was one of De Villiers's more controversial selections into the Bok squad, so there will be a lot of pressure on him to put his recent inconsistencies behind him and produce when it really matters for him to do so.

Some might wonder why Potgieter, who wore the No 7 jersey for the Bulls, is now being slotted into the No 6 normally worn by the openside flank in this country, but the truth is that both Potgieter and the blindside flank in this game, Jean Deysel, are looked on by the Bok coaches as potential ball winners on the ground.

Emerging Bok team: Zane Kirchner (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Luzuko Vulindlu (Sharks), Deon van Rensburg (Platinum Leopards), Morgan Newman (Vodacom Western Province), Bjorn Basson (GWK Griquas), Earl Rose (Xerox Lions), Jano Vermaak (Xerox Lions), Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Western Province), Jean Deysel (Sharks), Dewald Potgieter (Vodacom Blue Bulls – captain), Wilhelm Steenkamp (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Steven Sykes (Sharks), Werner Kruger (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Bandise Maku (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Wian du Preez (Vodacom Cheetahs).

Replacements: Tiaan Liebenberg (Vodacom Western Province), Pat Cilliers (Sharks), Franco van der Merwe (Xerox Lions), Jacques Botes (Sharks), Heini Adams (Vodacom Blue Bulls), Willem de Waal (Vodacom Western Province), Danwel Demas (Vodacom Cheetahs)
[/b]
www.supersport.com

I wasn't too far out with the starting team :p
 
Lions team to play the Emerging Sprinkboks.

15. Keith Earls (Munster/Ireland)
14. Shane Williams (Ospreys/Wales)
13. Riki Flutey (London Wasps/England)
12. Gordon D’Arcy (Leinster/Ireland)
11. Luke Fitzgerald (Leinster/Ireland)
10. Ronan O’Gara (Munster/Ireland, Captain)
9. Harry Ellis (Leicester Tigers/England)
1. Tim Payne (London Wasps/England)
2. Ross Ford (Edinburgh/Scotland)
3. John Hayes (Munster/Ireland)
4. Donncha O’Callaghan (Munster/Ireland)
5. Nathan Hines (Perpignan/Scotland)
6. Joe Worsley (London Wasps/England)
7. Martyn Williams (Cardiff Blues/Wales)
8. Andy Powell (Cardiff Blues/Wales)

Replacements

16. Lee Mears (Bath/England)
17. Phil Vickery (London Wasps/England)
18. Simon Shaw (London Wasps/England)
19. David Wallace (Munster/Ireland)
20. Mike Blair (Edinburgh/Scotland)
21. James Hook (Ospreys/Wales)
22. Ugo Monye (Harlequins/England)
 
Lots to play for then.

Fitzgerald, O'Gara, Hines, O'Callaghan, Williams and Powell should have real belief in their chances of taking a test spot for Saturday (as opposed to knowing they are out of the running, which is usually the case at this time of a tour).

Strange that Williams is playing at 7 given the match on Saturday.

Would have liked to see Blair get a decent run out too.

Oh .......... Lions will absolutely hammer these guys. For no other reason they they must, and they know it.
 
What a epicly poor front row. I feel sorry for Ford already.

Looks like Hines and O'Callaghan will be playing for a place in the test second row (if they really impress).

Feeling sorry for Williams stuck between those two dunces. Decent looking backline again.

Rog makes ie three Munster Lions captains in two weeks.
 
I would like to Andy Powell getting some of his own medicine from Duane Vermeulen this time :box:
 
It's so funny seeing Ricky Fluety in the Lions squad, considering when he played in NZ was nowhere near good enough to be an All Black, in fact he was the weak link in the Hurricanes backline.
 
Ahhh he did alright in the 6 Nations but he hasnt come anywhere close to breaking into the test team (hasnt had a chance really). Dont see a problem with him to be honest.
 
Strong team, poor enough front row though.

Hopefully DOC and Hines starting doesn't mean they are 4th and 5th place Locks, DOC in particular had a very positive impact of the bench Saturday. Shaw in the 22 for a Lions test match :ph34r:

Nice looking backline, If O'Gara plays well enough he should start on Saturday.
 
think they'll keep changes to a minimum, obviously the all Welsh front row will happen but I think he'll stick with the same elsewhere, Kearney will only start if Byrne is ruled out I'd imagine.
 
I think it was Rowentree that mentioned the possibility of changes through the three rows in the forwards.

I reckin they will lean towards the conservative approach alright but I think they may add AWJ to that list.
 

Latest posts

Top