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England 6N 2016 - General Chit Chat
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<blockquote data-quote="Crapspray" data-source="post: 783948" data-attributes="member: 58918"><p>The majority of lineout losses, as I remember them, haven't been clear steals though. Only the scrappiness could be laid at the door of two jumpers and a lot of that I feel is poor handling from England rather than pressure.</p><p></p><p>Against Scotland it was a Hartley underthrow to Kruis that was picked off; if he'd thrown at the correct height it would have gone over Gray and into Kruis' hands.</p><p></p><p>Against Italy I remember two which basically weren't jumped for, which is either a calling issue or the hooker/jumper completely screwing their timing up. It could be lifters, I suppose, but with five of them you'd think that wouldn't be a problem. Another one was a handling error from Kruis which, looking at it, was because Hartley overthrew. The final one I remember was a simple not straight.</p><p></p><p>Add to all of that the laughable maul five yards out in the second half that ended in a penalty for obstruction and I'd be happy to say the lineout issues stem mainly from inaccurate play rather than competition. And Borthwick really needs to earn his anorak in the next five weeks. Or change players.</p><p></p><p>So while adding Itoje would obviously help, I think the coaches/players haven't got anywhere near the best-case with two primary jumpers. I suppose Toner will confirm the theory next weekend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crapspray, post: 783948, member: 58918"] The majority of lineout losses, as I remember them, haven't been clear steals though. Only the scrappiness could be laid at the door of two jumpers and a lot of that I feel is poor handling from England rather than pressure. Against Scotland it was a Hartley underthrow to Kruis that was picked off; if he'd thrown at the correct height it would have gone over Gray and into Kruis' hands. Against Italy I remember two which basically weren't jumped for, which is either a calling issue or the hooker/jumper completely screwing their timing up. It could be lifters, I suppose, but with five of them you'd think that wouldn't be a problem. Another one was a handling error from Kruis which, looking at it, was because Hartley overthrew. The final one I remember was a simple not straight. Add to all of that the laughable maul five yards out in the second half that ended in a penalty for obstruction and I'd be happy to say the lineout issues stem mainly from inaccurate play rather than competition. And Borthwick really needs to earn his anorak in the next five weeks. Or change players. So while adding Itoje would obviously help, I think the coaches/players haven't got anywhere near the best-case with two primary jumpers. I suppose Toner will confirm the theory next weekend. [/QUOTE]
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